[asterisk-users] North American voice BRI - Informal survey

[Jon Pounder]

Quoting Stephen Bosch <posting at vodacomm.ca>:

> Jeremy Mann wrote:
>>> you would think the telcos would be more interested in selling this
>>> to small/medium businesses that are not ready for a voice pri but
>>> it
>>
>> Since when to the telcos have the consumer's best interest in mind?
>> They can sell you a PRI at full loop cost with a smaller number of
>> channels in the hopes you will add to it, they will then charge you
>> an "upgrade fee" or some other inflated installation cost when in
>> reality it is almost 0 work to reprovision, pure profit for them.
>
> People forget that the PSTN network was very expensive to build in the
> first place, which is why we had monopolies; the regulation of the
> market amounted to a form of subsidy.

the copper plant was expensive to build yes, which is why not offering  
bri as a mid level service does not make sense - 2x analog lines take  
2pr of copper which taxes the infrastructure more than one bri on one  
pair with the same roughly profit to them as the 2pr solution. yes a  
pri would put even less load on the pairs available, but most  
companies in the 5-50 employee range are not ready for that sort of  
expense when the breakeven point is near the analog lines of the full  
pipe.

physical plant wise what would make sense is just install a  
pri/channelized t1 for anyone with more than a couple lines, then as  
they add and delete lines no physical install has to be done at all,  
channels are just added or dropped from the circuit thats already  
there. its the truck rolls that cost the money, not the hardware on  
the ends at all, and when the pairs run out, then you need a remote  
switch, fibre, pairgain boxes, remote channel banks, etc., etc., to  
continue to offer service in the saturated area.

so go figure ? its a win situation for them from day 1 as far as  
profit per pair, provisioning, and conserving pairs in saturated areas  
to avoid build costs, yet it doesn't happen routinely and its like a  
fight to even make it happen in a special case.










>
> With that regulatory impetus gone, there's little incentive for the
> telcos to maintain their last-mile wireline infrastructure. There's
> precious little money in it. Under those circumstances, they can be
> expected to tweak things to make them worthwhile.
>
> I'm not defending them -- I'm just pointing out that this isn't just a
> simple case of "the damn telcos". We're living in a world of our own
> making. It's the price of having cheap long distance.
>
>> ATT is/was doing buyback promotions recently for 5 analog lines + a
>> full Data T1 for around $425 total(including loop cost), that's a
>> steal and frankly we would have been crazy to request BRI service.
>
> I cannot get partial PRI with fewer than 10 channels around here, so
> there's really *no* choice.
>
> -Stephen-
>
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Jon Pounder

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