[asterisk-users] Open CallerID Database? (late reply)

John Todd jtodd at loligo.com
Tue Jun 5 14:03:30 CDT 2007


At 11:57 AM -0800 2007/2/21, Brad Templeton wrote:
>
>On Tue, Feb 20, 2007 at 12:08:15PM -0700, Natambu Obleton wrote:
>>  Why not make it like DNS and have each provider have their lookups
>>  deligated to a local server and then each ISP will run a caching
>>  server that will use a serial number system to get updates.. just like
>>  DNS.
>>
>>  I know there are lot more DNS lookups then CNAM lookups per hour...
>>  isn't there? :)
>>
>
>Hey, we could even build a system where DNS can be used to take any
>phone number and look up data about it, not just a name, but even
>a URI to redirect calls to for it, a source of presence info and
>more.
>
>What a great idea!   Unfortunately, since phone numbers are
>believed to be owned by telcos and not by individuals, such
>a system would probably make the mistake of delegating control
>over the numbers to the telcos, who would feel no particular
>motive to help people bypass what they sell, and so I predict
>it will languish for a long time with no real deployment in the
>USA.
>
>:-)

Yeah, late reply here.

If ENUM were viable, this concept already exists for the most part, 
at least in draft form:

  http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-enum-cnam-05.txt

However, I don't believe for a second (though I did years ago) that 
ENUM will ever leave the control of the carriers, as you also 
insinuate.  I'm singing to the choir, though, since you already have 
a Freenum/ISN dialing method (http://www.freenum.org/) for your 
organization, Brad.  Encouragingly, the ISN dialing method does scale 
quite well for the CNAM-type data to be put in the DNS with the CNAM 
extension draft referenced above, unlike E.164 which is more 
cumbersome, to say the least.

In other news:  I'm looking for an inexpensive CNAM provider via 
HTTP.  Low volume at first, but probably ramping up a bit over time 
to a few thousand lookups a day.  Anyone out there providing this 
service with a "low friction" business model?

JT





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