[asterisk-users] Asterisk Hosting (Dedicated Servers)
marcelobiz at comcast.net
marcelobiz at comcast.net
Wed Jul 18 00:57:11 CDT 2007
Thanks Gordon for your response,
It helped me a lot ...
I should have done this already, but the QoS issue was holding me back ... Actually, for now ... I'll start with just a backup box and test how it goes ...
I was looking for a kind of dedicated server hosting with a MPLS network that could give me a good level of QoS, but I didn't find it ...
Thanks again,
Marcelo
P.S: If anyone has another point ... I would be grateful in reading your opinions
-------------- Original message --------------
From: Gordon Henderson <gordon+asterisk at drogon.net>
> On Tue, 17 Jul 2007, marcelobiz at comcast.net wrote:
>
> > Hello guys,
> >
> > Does anyone has an Asterisk server hosted off-site ? Like in those data
> > centers that do web hosting in dedicated servers ?
> >
> > Is there a hosting company that has a special plan to host voip services
> > like this, or usually is hosted in those dedicated servers like the ones
> > I asked above ?
> >
> > What about QoS ? I know that most (if not all) are connected to their
> > switch through a 10Mbps/100Mbps port ? But ... without a QoS rule ...
> > even with that speed doesn't it affect the quality of voice ?
> >
> > Can you please tell me your experience ? Or point me some good hosting
> > companies ?
>
> It can be a bit of a minefield - especially if it's an area you've not
> looked into before.
>
> I've been doing this (in a very minor way) for over 10 years now.
>
> So I run what could be described as a small hosting company, however, my
> hosts are currently inside another ISPs data centre rather than in a
> "neutral" data centre, so I get 100% of my Internet connectivity from my
> upstream ISP, and I am relying on them to do the right thing with having
> multiple transit providers and redundant network routing, UPSs and
> generators, all of which they have to my satisfaction.
>
> The next step for me would be to host in some neutral facility, get my own
> IP address space, my own AS number, then connect into multiple transit
> providers and arrange peering through the various neutral connection
> points that exist in the UK (LINX, MaNAP, etc.) I'm not big enough for
> that ... yet ;-)
>
> So I have routers and switches and connect into the ISP via a redundant
> mechanism (VRRP). I can apply QoS in my own routers, so that traffic from
> the Asterisk servers can be prioritised over the traffic from the LAMPy
> type servers, however, without the co-operation of the upstream ISP(s),
> you can't effectively apply QoS to the incoming traffic. (Fortunately in
> my instance, incoming is so much lighter than outgoing, and their network
> in not oversubscribed, so it's not really an issue)
>
> The easiest way to start, would be to simply place hosts inside another
> ISPs network, and rely on them for "quality" transit - ie. make sure they
> have multiple transit providers themselves, good power supplies, UPS,
> generators, etc. and if they are good and don't oversell their bandwidth
> then for the most part you'll be just fine. Once you have several hosts
> you might want to look at having your own router(s) and switch(es), but
> this will depend on how the hosting company operates (and your budget!)
>
> Finding that hosting company where you live is the challenge though! You
> need to ask lots of questions - can you get physical access to the
> servers? is it within driving distance? do you have remote screen &
> keyboard facilities? (or if they offer "remote hands" and if so, how much
> do they charge?) How well do they connect to the world in general, and do
> they charge separate for power or bandwidth (and is bandwidth in terms of
> speed, or is it per bit pricing, or some combination of the 2?)
>
> Start phoning & emailling - how fast do they answer the phone, or return
> email will be a good metric too...
>
> In the UK, London appears to be power starved right now - it would appear
> that bandwidth is virtually free, but you'll get charged per amp used!
> Outside London you rarely have this restriction, but then bandwidth is
> costly as it's got to be back-hauled to London (or Manchester), so "local
> knowledge" is something you'll need to find out about.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Gordon
>
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