[asterisk-users] Corporate Feedback to OSS (was: Re: Mushtaq Ahmed is out of the office.)

[Matthew Rubenstein]

	True. But I think that fuzzy distinction is also relevant to the fuzzy
process. I'm not talking about suing or fighting anyone, with actual
evidence suitable to that kind of action. I'm just talking about clues
for looking for actual evidence of actual actions.

	Besides, Mushtaq Ahmed's recent list posting seems like he's testing
Asterisk/SIP while at work at 3Com, though it's not conclusive:
http://archives.free.net.ph/message/20070329.164411.3b3da82d.en.html ,
and appears to have helped patent a PSTN/ethernet "conference call
system" for 3Com:
http://uspto.gov/web/patents/patog/week31/OG/html/1309-1/US07085364-20060801.html . Certainly one to watch, as he's watching us and Asterisk.


On Sat, 2007-07-07 at 08:32 -0700, Tom Lynn wrote:
> On the other hand, the guy could just be using his work e-mail for
> personal interests.
> 
> On 7/7/07, Matthew Rubenstein <email at mattruby.com> wrote:
>         On Sat, 2007-07-07 at 08:39 -0500,
>         asterisk-users-request at lists.digium.com wrote:
>         > Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 12:02:53 -0600
>         > From: Stephen Bosch <posting at vodacomm.ca>
>         > Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Mushtaq Ahmed is out of the
>         office. 
>         > To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
>         >         <asterisk-users at lists.digium.com>
>         > Message-ID: <468E83CD.1070703 at vodacomm.ca>
>         > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>         >
>         > Wayne wrote:
>         > > I was wondering where 3Com were getting all the new ideas
>         from for
>         > their
>         > > phone system ;-p 
>         > >
>         > > Cats out of the bag now I guess :)
>         >
>         > The price of open source is that the commercial outfits are
>         free to
>         > rip
>         > off ideas without paying for them.
>         >
>         > But hey -- competition is good, right? 
>         
>                 Competition is good, one benefit of OSS pressure on
>         commercial/proprietary competitors to improve their products
>         which lead
>         investment.
>         
>                 Cooperation is also good. Public knowledge that
>         corporations are in the 
>         community helps us know where to look for GPL software they
>         secretly
>         use, or just how they get some valuable ideas from which they
>         profit
>         (profit from us, usually). So it's easier to convince them to
>         explicitly 
>         feed back into the OSS. Either just user feedback, or actual
>         investment
>         in testing, further development, or even GPL'ing their own
>         proprietary
>         tech into the community.
>         
>                 So now it's time that 3Com hears from us, and we hear
>         back, that we're 
>         all "coopeting" together. If they don't explicitly contribute
>         soon, that
>         bad community attitude will be a clue for some examination of
>         their
>         products for included GPL code and GPL violations, or just
>         some bad 
>         press for being merely "takers" with their $billion budgets.
>         
>         
>         > -Stephen-
>         
>         
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