[asterisk-users] Open CallerID Database?

[Natambu Obleton]

Why not make it like DNS and have each provider have their lookups
deligated to a local server and then each ISP will run a caching
server that will use a serial number system to get updates.. just like
DNS.

I know there are lot more DNS lookups then CNAM lookups per hour...
isn't there? :)

On 2/20/07, Mike Lynchfield <theclubvoip at gmail.com> wrote:
> With all other things said.. you might want a professional service for this
> like  targusinfo.com
>
> Maintaining and running an operation like a cname web lookup thing is REALLY
> high overhead in terms of web traffic etc
>
> What happens when you get 30 ITSP/clients pulling 1000 calls each or 100000
> calls each per day..
>
> that can easily go up to 1 mill requests per day ,
>
> How will you pay for the bandwith/hardware/failover/load balance etc
> hardware for all this ?
>
> or if you are going to charge then why reinvent the wheel.
>
> targusinfo.com is what we would use..
>
> Cname lookup is a really controversial matter , no one wants to absorb the
> costs , that is why some TELCOS charge 4.95  for callerid ( its basically
> the lookup service they are paying for) ..
>
> CNAME lookups is also not mandatory for TELCOS so some do it some don't ,
> but FREE cname is just not going to happen untill some one has a Return on
> Investment strategy for this..
>
>
> Take a look at Free 800 systems that went down , Any venture needs a capital
> source of income..
>
> my 0.02
>
>
>
> On 2/20/07, Robert Norton - SophMedia LLC <robert at sophmedia.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hey Guys,
> > I'm glad to see this ignited some discussion.
> >
> > I definitely understand there's some legal implications involved, both on
> a privacy level, and fraud prevention. Obviously an end-user (ie: the person
> controlling a listing) has to consent to some sort of release resolving the
> privacy concerns. I'm somewhat aware of the legal implications involved with
> storing such personally identifiable information (or whatever the legal term
> is) and have a concern in making sure such issues are resolved.
> >
> > In reality, how is it efficient for every provider to be running their own
> database? In my mind, this leaves the horribly evident inaccuracies, and
> even efficiency issues. Thank God these accuracies aren't integral to the
> operations of telephony systems.
> >
> >
> >
> > I do understand there is a price to pay for such infrastructure, and I
> believe that it's obvious the telephony world is riddled with racketeering,
> price gouging ventures, including companies that charge nearly a $0.01 for a
> lookup. I realize the following analogy is poor, but in mind this is as
> close as a internet search engine charging for a basic search query. Infact
> a basic internet query is much more complex, much more costly (ie: the
> infrastructure of said systems), and yet self-subsidizing.
> >
> >
> > And to the poster who suggested that I was implying scrapping the results
> from 411.com, this is definitely not even a remote idea in my mind at all.
> The basis for my idea was a open, moderated, database that was user
> controlled and self-subsidized.
> >
> >
> >
> > I know this is way off topic, but I really feel that the telecom industry
> as a whole, and I'm sure I'm not the only one with this belief, is horribly
> bloated, running on business models that are clearly 30 years outdated. It
> is 2007, and with the help of the internet, the exchange of information,
> these telcos now have real, global competition, and real issues to deal
> with.
> >
> > Anyways guys, I'm curious to hear your thoughts.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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