[Asterisk-Users] voipjet down?

[Matt]

Kerry,
You have a good point... about little companies who want termination..
still CEO may be willing to give them good termination... doesn't hurt
to call.

I'm a little confused though... where did I recommend voipjet?

On 5/10/06, Kerry Garrison <support at techdatapros.com> wrote:
> You always recommend CEO when ever anyone asks about a service provider when
> nobody has asked about wholesale. Very very few people are interested in
> wholesale pricing. If you are a consultant you want to recommend a company
> to your clients that is the best fit for their needs. If you are an end user
> you also do not care about wholesale pricing. So yes, everytime someone asks
> for a recommendation you throw this incredibly expensive provider out there
> and if anyone points out the fact that they are the single most expensive
> provider available you turn around and say "but that's not their wholesale
> price". Well, it IS the price they advertise on their website, and in fact,
> it is the ONLY price advertised on their site. So you just keep extolling
> the virtues of them and I will point out that it is not a good
> recommendation if they are looking for a cost effective voip service
> provider. Fair enough?
>
> Secondly, read your own message, you recommend voipjet for both situations
> when everyone is having issues with them.
>
> -Kerry
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com
> > [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Matt
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 11:58 AM
> > To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
> > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] voipjet down?
> >
> > I'm not in bed with CEO.   All I do is use them... and want to see
> > them get more customers.   Sorry if I sounded upset... it just seems
> > like Kerry never reads the e-mail every time this issue comes up.
> >
> > On 5/10/06, Jay Milk <ast-users at skimmilk.net> wrote:
> > > Whoa, kid, do you have a behavioral problem?  No reason to
> > get nasty.
> > > You're only confirming the long-held suspicion that you're
> > in bed with
> > > calleveryone.  Friendly references are one thing, but
> > defending it at
> > > the expense of courtesy, that's suspicious.
> > >
> > > I don't think their customer service is all that top-notch
> > anyway.  I
> > > emailed them a pre-sales question on a weekday, and didn't get a
> > > response until almost 72 hours later.  Maybe their customer
> > service is
> > > better than their sales team, but in my experience, sales are
> > > generally the best staffed group in any service company.
> > >
> > > Lastly, the customer service quality of my termination provider is
> > > secondary.  A business that relies on outgoing calls wouldn't even
> > > touch IP termination for those essential calls; they'd get a PRI.
> > > Everyone else can wait a few minutes while the phone system
> > switches
> > > providers if one goes down.
> > >
> > > Matt wrote:
> > > > Kerry,
> > > > Do you have a reading problem?   Both times that I have
> > tried to help
> > > > people out by suggesting a company I have personally used
> > and have had
> > > > good luck with, you reply and say that the rates are
> > horrible.   If
> > > > you would read my e-mails you would see that the 3.9 cents is NOT
> > > > for wholesale termination.
> > > >
> > > > If you want someone would will give cheap termination to
> > end users,
> > > > go use voipjet or whatever you want.
> > > >
> > > > If, on the other hand, you want some reliable cheap wholesale
> > > > termination, go check out voipjet.
> > > >
> > > > On 5/10/06, Kerry Garrison <support at techdatapros.com> wrote:
> > > >> I cant imagine anyone using voipjet as their only or
> > main provider.
> > > >> And I'll
> > > >> say again, 3.9 cents for an ITSP is the most expensive I
> > have found.
> > > >> Business grade termination is typically much less than that with
> > > >> top notch companies like https://www.nexvortex.com/ at 2.5c.
> > >
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