[Asterisk-Users] Polycom 501 power over ethernet

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Mon Mar 6 10:26:51 MST 2006


I've seen a lot of IP501 and I've never seen one with a power jack.
According to Polycom they all use the cable.  

Possibly it was an IP500? -Mike

Michael Crown
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Douglas Garstang [mailto:dgarstang at oneeighty.com] 
> Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 10:13 AM
> To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
> Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Polycom 501 power over ethernet
> 
> No, some IP 501's have the inline cable and some have the power jack.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Hales [mailto:pdhales at optusnet.com.au]
> Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 8:59 PM
> To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
> Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Polycom 501 power over ethernet
> 
> 
> 
> The IP300/301 has the power jack, the IP500/501 the inline cable.
> 
> PaulH
> 
> On Sun, 2006-03-05 at 20:56 -0700, Douglas Garstang wrote:
> > Not true. Some do and some don't. Some have a place to plug 
> a separate DC adapter, and some have the inline power, where 
> the adapter plugs into the ethernet cable. Not sure which 
> ones are newer, and which are older.
> > 
> > 	-----Original Message----- 
> > 	From: Michael Welter [mailto:mike at telecommatters.net] 
> > 	Sent: Sun 3/5/2006 6:50 PM 
> > 	To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion 
> > 	Cc: 
> > 	Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Polycom 501 power over ethernet
> > 	
> > 	
> > 
> > 	The IP501 does not have a power jack.  You'll need one 
> of the Polycom
> > 	cables.
> > 	
> > 	William M Conlon wrote:
> > 	> My recollection of the marketing fluff was that we 
> would just use our
> > 	> legacy network (cables) and the devices at both ends 
> would figure out
> > 	> whether they were sourcing, sinking, or neither.  In 
> the case of the
> > 	> 501, it's the special Polycom cable, either with or 
> without provision
> > 	> for an AC power adapter, that powers the phone.  
> That's what I meant by
> > 	> saying the '501' itself is not compliant with 802.3af 
> -- it needs a
> > 	> separate thingamajig [tech jargon :)]to be powered.
> > 	>
> > 	> Anyway I had hoped that I could just plug a CAT-5 
> patch cable from my
> > 	> RJ45 wall outlet into the phone.
> > 	>
> > 	> On Mar 5, 2006, at 5:17 PM, Michael Welter wrote:
> > 	>
> > 	>> As I understand 802.3af, the phones go through a 
> negotiation with the
> > 	>> unit supplying the power.  I don't think it's a 
> matter of -48VDC on a
> > 	>> particular pair.  I remember a schematic from years 
> ago--it had each
> > 	>> of the receive pair and the transmit pair going into 
> a transformer
> > 	>> winding,  and that winding had a center tap for PoE. 
>  This is not
> > 	>> something that *I* am going to screw with.
> > 	>>
> > 	>> The IP501 telephone set is the same for both PoE and 
> local power. 
> > 	>> With the PoE cable, the 802.3af electronics (the 
> negotiator) is a
> > 	>> plastic thing in the cable.  For the local power, 
> there is a plastic
> > 	>> thingie toward the wall end of the cable, and you 
> plug the wall wart
> > 	>> into the plastic thingie.  <Notice the advanced 
> technical jargon here>
> > 	>>
> > 	>> With local power, there is still only one cable one 
> the desk--the
> > 	>> power plugs into the cable towards the wall.  Except 
> for a power
> > 	>> interruption, this has all the advantages of PoE.
> > 	>>
> > 	>>
> > 	>>
> > 	>> William M Conlon wrote:
> > 	>>> I saw that Polycom offered a cable (not stocked 
> anywhere), at $40 a
> > 	>>> pop for 802.3af connections.  That's what made me 
> think the phone
> > 	>>> itself is NOT 802.3af compliant.
> > 	>>> Presumably, for $40, there's more than a fuse in 
> that special cable.
> > 	>>> On Mar 5, 2006, at 4:31 PM, Paul Hales wrote:
> > 	>>>> For Polycom IP500/501's and IP300/301's you need a 
> special polycom POE
> > 	>>>> cable.
> > 	>>>>
> > 	>>>> When you buy Polycom phones you can usually 
> specify POE or powerpack.
> > 	>>>>
> > 	>>>> PaulH
> > 	>>>>
> > 	>>>> On Sun, 2006-03-05 at 16:23 -0800, William M Conlon wrote:
> > 	>>>>> When I bought two Polycom 501 SIP phones, I 
> naively thought they were
> > 	>>>>> Power-over-Ethernet (IEEE 802.3af) because they 
> were "powered over
> > 	>>>>> ethernet."  Silly me.
> > 	>>>>>
> > 	>>>>> Polycom must have some odd voltage or funny way 
> of injecting the
> > 	>>>>> power, because the POE switch I bought for them 
> (Netgear F at 510P)
> > 	>>>>> won't power them, though if I use the 
> Polycom-supplied AC adapter and
> > 	>>>>> ethernet power injector cable, they work with the 
> switch in either
> > 	>>>>> its powered or unpowered ports.
> > 	>>>>>
> > 	>>>>> Anyhow, I hadn't seen any mention of how people 
> power these phones,
> > 	>>>>> as I had planned on centralizing phone power on a 
> UPS to supply my
> > 	>>>>> Asterisk server and POE switch.  Now the question is:
> > 	>>>>>
> > 	>>>>> Can the Polycom AC-powered injector be used with 
> a standard ethernet
> > 	>>>>> patch cable:
> > 	>>>>>
> > 	>>>>>     switch :: Polycom injector cable :: RJ45 
> coupler :: patch cable ::
> > 	>>>>> Polycom 501
> > 	>>>>>
> > 	>>>>> which would allow me to power the Polycom AC 
> adapters by my UPS.  Or
> > 	>>>>> do I need to provide a UPS at each phone and run 
> the ethernet like
> > 	>>>>>
> > 	>>>>>     switch :: patch cable :: RJ45 coupler :: 
> Polycom injector cable ::
> > 	>>>>> Polycom 501
> > 	>>>>>
> > 	>>>>> thanks.
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> > 	>> --Michael Welter
> > 	>> Telecom Matters Corp.
> > 	>> Denver, Colorado US
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> > 	> Bill
> > 	>
> > 	> William M. Conlon, P.E., Ph.D.
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> > 	Michael Welter
> > 	Telecom Matters Corp.
> > 	Denver, Colorado US
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> > 	mike at TelecomMatters.net
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