[Asterisk-Users] RE: "open" asterisk?
janvb at caselaboratories.com
janvb at caselaboratories.com
Wed Nov 16 01:41:43 MST 2005
10 Million is ca 10,000 boards/licenses if you assume 1000 USD in
average. I know the Digium boards are some of the cheapest around, but
the actual production cost should be below 150 USD for a 4xE1/T1 of this
type, meaning that they still should have very decent margins.
jan
gw at adcomcorp.com wrote:
>I wouldn't believe 10mil/yr. Maybe if they had other non-asterisk
>products, but that just does not seem reasonable if you look at asterisk
>at this stage. Besides, are they a public company? Are they required to
>report to the SEC? That makes a big difference. I mean realistically,
>a 900 dollar software product or less than 10k hardware product needs a
>lot of sales to hit around 10mil. And the tech support would have
>enourmous overhead.
>
>But if digium is also doing custom ivr's and such, you can easily do a
>few million there, however you have to have well over 100 employees.
>
>Oh unrelated, I have talked to people who tend to hype up their company.
>I feel it is bad business, but have heard people saying 'yes I will hit
>5 million this year, and have no loss'. Later, I have seen them go
>under.
>
>Greg
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com
>[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of calvis
>Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 10:27 PM
>To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
>Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] RE: "open" asterisk?
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>Maybe this will open your eyes :)
>
>This article says Digium has sales of 10 million per year.
>
>
>http://news.com.com/Is+the+telephone+industry+ready+for+open+source/2008
>-108
>2_3-5737703.html
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>-----Original Message-----
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>[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of
>gw at adcomcorp.com
>Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 7:04 PM
>To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
>Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] RE: "open" asterisk?
>
>Millions of dollars in hardware sales? I admit I don't know what there
>sales level is, but I doubt that it's 1 mil at this stage in the game.
>And, if it were, that has nothing to do with profit. You can make 1 mil
>in sales in a year but still walk away with a net loss.
>
>Without the community where would digium be? Don't know, probably doing
>the same but in a proprietary format, giving people no choice but to
>shell out the big bucks.
>
>I for one am happy they started up the project, and if they did in turn
>make Asterisk proprietary, I would probably shell out the cash since it
>offers what no other pbx can offer.
>
>Greg
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com
>[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Aidan Van
>Dyk
>Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 8:51 AM
>To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
>Subject: [Asterisk-Users] RE: "open" asterisk?
>
>gw at adcomcorp.com wrote:
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>>As for the people who would suspect digium is strong-arming anyone,
>>hell, if it weren't for them you wouldn't have asterisk would you?
>>And therefore probably no openpbx either, and we all would be spending
>>
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>>thousands to do what asterisk can do for free.
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>
>And if it weren't for the community of indentured slaves and testers,
>where would Digium be, with no users, contributors, or bug-reporters?
>Never mind the no millions of dollars of hardware sales. It *should* be
>a symbiotic relationship.
>
>
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