[Asterisk-Users] g729 status in New Zealand

David Uzzell asterisk-list at uzzell.com.au
Tue Nov 15 19:21:38 MST 2005


trixter aka Bret McDanel wrote:
> On Wed, 2005-11-16 at 13:22 +1300, Richard Malcolm-Smith wrote:
> 
>>As far as I was aware a license was only required in contries that had software 
>>patents, I know that there arnt here so I am just seeking clarification if thats 
>>all there is to it.
> 


I say just all get over it. The lic cost is Cheap. I did not want to
have to buy lic for the codec but I did when I had my server in a Data
Centre. Now I have it at home on my DSL I am not even using the g729
codec anymore cause lan bandwidth is not a issue for me. I don't even
have it loaded cause I don't want to waste one of the MAC changes cause
I am in the process of getting a new server.

It is not as if the Lic Fee is $100 per lic or anything that nasty, it
is $10 per channel. If that is used for your personal use then you would
likely own need a couple so it is not expensive. And if it is for
business and you need many and you can't afford to cover the cost's of
the codec then you shouldn't be in business.

I mean just all get over it. Been and DONE to death. Enjoy the cheap
codec lic for what it is.

David



> 
> This issue was beaten to death before, software patents are not the only
> issue, while it is true that this software is covered under a patent the
> application is written broad enough to say that its an algorithm or
> device not just software.  Or so the people who misunderstood me kept
> yelling towards me.
> 
> There are some countries where you can only patent a physical device
> that exists and then only that device.  As the codec doesnt qualify in
> those countries specifically, the patent is not valid there.  Those
> countries specifically forbid the patenting of mathematical algorithms,
> etc.  This was the issue that many people misunderstood or refused to
> accept and tried to turn the discussion into whether or not one was
> deserved rather than is it enforcable in a specific location.
> 
> Be warned you opened a can of worms by asking this question.
> 
> In short I dont know if patents in new zealand cover nonexistant
> devices, theories, algorithms, etc.  But you may want to broaden your
> search from just software patents to what types of patents are allowed
> and whether algorithms and other types are patentable in wherever anyone
> who reads this happens to reside.
> 
> Regardless digium has no way of giving out the g.729 codec without a
> license so you will have to look elsewhere to get one for asterisk.
> There is a patch file to use the intel code. You have to go thruogh a
> long drawn out process to get the code from intel, registering, agreeing
> to the license terms blah blah blah.  Once you get it its fairly
> straight forward to apply the patch.  The hardest part is getting the
> code.
> 
> The patch is released under the GPL but by doing that the patch authors
> violate the GPL so in effect there is no license for that software.  You
> cant tie a gpl product to something that is licensed contrary to the
> gpl, that specifically is in their faq.
> 
> If you know where to look there is another option out there that doesnt
> use either method, but I have doubts about how legal that one is, so I
> will not comment on that.
> 
> 
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