[Asterisk-Users] RE: Asterisk at home with Broadvoice?

[Wiley Siler]

As a general rule of thumb it would be good to make the distinction
between 'Credit Card' and 'Debit Card' too.

If possible, never ever use a debit card for online purchases.
It taps directly into your account and removes REAL money.
Credit cards are 'virtual' money in that they are credit and your cash
in account remains untouched.
That way if your credit card account gets compromised or a bad vendor
overcharges, they are taking the credit card company's money...
Not yours...  Again, you get more leverage and protect your hard earned
duccets...

Just another thought.

Cheers,
Wiley

 

-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Jay Milk
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 9:49 AM
To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] RE: Asterisk at home with Broadvoice?

When broadvoice first started screwing up in DECEMBER, I put a
charge-back through with Amex, without a single hitch.  BV never
complained, they just cancelled my service and I got the cash back from
Amex.  Don't ever forgot, if you're paying for services by Credit Card,
you generally have better leverage.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul [mailto:digium-list at 9ux.com]
> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 10:39 AM
> To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
> Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] RE: Asterisk at home with Broadvoice?
> 
> 
> This is too funny. I have 2 different visa check card numbers 
> connected to the company bank account. Only one is used for any online

> purchasing.
> I do this so that in the event of unauthorized or fraudulent 
> transactions, I only have to cancel one card and still have one to use

> for gasoline and so on. It just so happens that I recently cancelled 
> that number and was issued a new number. Now I have to update my 
> payment information with any vendor that *I CHOOSE TO PAY*. I won't be

> giving BV the new number unless the tone of these posts here changes 
> radically in their favor.
> 
> One thing I like about paypal is that they have "subscription 
> agreements" which I can revoke. I have a dedicated server on one. The 
> vendor does not have my credit card or checking account numbers. 
> Anytime I decide to cancel the service I can login to paypal first and

> cancel the agreement. That prevents him from "accidentally" charging 
> me for another month. Just imagine what would happen to companies like

> BV if they accepted paypal. They would be seeing a radical drop in 
> cash flow after a week of FUD.
> 
> Tim Connolly wrote:
> 
> >Yeah, Broadvoice sucks, everybody cancel your service so I
> can use it! 
> >I have yet to find another provider with as many free calls from a 
> >basic rate with no strings attached (Learn from this Vonage!).
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com
> >[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of 
> >Disgruntled Asterisk Luser
> >Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 9:06 PM
> >To: Luki; Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
> >Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] RE: Asterisk at home with Broadvoice?
> >
> >Don't worry about these subtle details.  Broadvoice has been off the 
> >air for
> >
> >almost a solid week, with no real explanation as to what the problem 
> >is.
> >
> >On the voxilla.com board, there have been a lot of
> inferences, but no
> >real solid information as to what the problem actually is.
> >
> >But I really wonder about the survivability of a telephony service 
> >business which is unusable for days on end, and with no explanation
> of what the
> >problem
> >is.
> >
> >
> >On Sun, 8 May 2005, Luki wrote:
> >
> >  
> >
> >>>2 hour call does not appear to be 'normal residential use'
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>That is insane. Clue: teenagers. They can spend hours on
> the phone and
> >>that certainly is NOT business use.
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >>>I am about to cancel my service and demand that ...
> >>>they waive the cancelation fee
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>I do not think there is a cancellation fee; I had someone
> cancel about
> >>a month ago because their DSL connection quality was
> useless for VOIP
> >>(and this certainly was not Broadvoice's fault) and no fee was 
> >>charged. Beware, if you cancel 3 days into your new billing cycle, 
> >>they close your account right away, even if you just paid for a 
> >>complete month 3 days ago.
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> 
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