[Asterisk-Users] why even use SIP

[Sys Admin]

After 20 posts, in 2005 the ideal setup for a new installtion of a 50
user asterisk is:

Option1: IAX2 with softphone firefly
Option2: SIP with softphone 
Option3: IAX2 with hardphones (which brand?)
Option4: SIP with hardphones.

Seems like we cannot come to a definite conclusion, poll ?

so the verdict is ?

On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:48:00 +0800, Shaun Dwyer <shaund at wadata.com.au> wrote:
> Hi Scott,
> 
> Intresting to know, cheers :)
> 
> Only down side though, is that most people using softphones will be
> using Windows...
> If only ALSA was available for windows ;)
> 
> -Shaun
> 
> Scott Williamson wrote:
> 
> >That should be the program alsamixer, not amixer. Make sure to press F5
> >to get all of the playback/capture devices shown.
> >
> >On Mon, 2005-21-03 at 22:02 -0500, Scott Williamson wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Ah, Console sound card echo.
> >>
> >>I found that with my cheep YMFPCI sound card that there is a channel
> >>called "wave capture" that is enabled for recording by default. And this
> >>is only visible when one uses ALSA sound drivers. One needs to use an
> >>ALSA mixer control program (I use amixer, the text mode one) to disable,
> >>or reduce the volume on these sound cards. Once this is done there is no
> >>more echo at all!
> >>
> >>Why this channel does not appear under OSS, and why it appears to be
> >>enabled by default in the hardware is beyond me. The GUI mixers all list
> >>this channel simply as WAVE, and I have two WAVE channels. So remember
> >>amixer.
> >>
> >>The card is called ICEnsemble ICE1230 by OSS, and Yamaha DS-XG (YMF734)
> >>by ALSA
> >>
> >>On Tue, 2005-22-03 at 10:52 +0800, Shaun Dwyer wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Scott Bussinger wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>We just tried to go entirely with softphones in our office gave up after a
> >>>>month or so of trying. I tried probably 10 different softphones running on
> >>>>3.0Ghz WinXP machines and none of them were workable. I tried both SIP and
> >>>>IAX2 softphones using headsets plugged into the audio ports, USB headsets,
> >>>>and USB phone interface boxes (www.phoneconnector.com).
> >>>>
> >>>>While it wasn't hard to get them to work and the concept would have been
> >>>>perfect in our environment, the quality was _terrible_! We had many issues
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>><snip>
> >>>
> >>>I found that for the most part, crappy sounds cards caused the bulk of
> >>>problems with soft phones.
> >>>I noticed that on, for example, intel D865PERLL motherboards with an
> >>>onboard realtek AC97 sound
> >>>device, There was heaps of echo for the remote end (using a softphone or
> >>>a hardphone).
> >>>
> >>>I also found that a stock standard Creative PCI 128 sound card gave
> >>>great results.
> >>>
> >>>Given PCI128s arn't available anymore, I'm sure you could find an
> >>>alternative, like perhaps
> >>>even going as far as a SB Live Value.. if you buy these in bulk, im sure
> >>>you can get em cheap
> >>>as chips.
> >>>
> >>>I've only ever used X-lite as a soft phone and found it to be really
> >>>very good.
> >>>
> >>>Cheers,
> >>>-Shaun
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> >>>
> >>--
> >>Scott J. Williamson <scott at sjwilliamson.ca>
> >>
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> >>the capitalist mode of production. -- Herbert Marcuse
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> >
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> >unbiased, objective witness, isn't it. You too were shot in the fracas?
> >A: No, sir. I was shot midway between the fracas and the naval.
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