[Asterisk-Users] Skype - Bandwidth

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When I see people arguing on the list about arguing off list, it kinda
reminds me of the old question; what came first the chicken or the
egg?
yeah and I'm doing it on list (in case you didn't notice).
Enjoy guys.


On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:03:27 -0600, Steven Critchfield
<critch at basesys.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 2005-03-14 at 16:46 -0600, Jay Milk wrote:
> > Yes yes, it's totally hypocritical to post the following, but I think
> > everyone should read it (yes, I think I'm just THAT important).
> >
> > Here's a perfect example of a mis-post that was blown out of proportion.
> > When I first saw Cesar's post, I responded off-list to the effect that
> > this would be the wrong forum to ask this question.  If others had done
> > the same -- responded off-list -- or simply ignored that message, that
> > would have been the end of the thread.  Instead, 16 more messages
> > clogged the list.
> >
> > Yes, it's necessary to explain to posters why certain messages won't get
> > answered.  But I don't think it's necessary to do it in front of 10,000
> > people.  Yes, it's annoying that some folks don't understand or respect
> > the "rules" of this list -- but in absence of a moderator, there aren't
> > really any rules here.  It's also annoying that some don't make the
> > effort to find an answer before asking, and then get upset that nobody
> > will explain to them what a telephone is, or what "VoIP" means.  But if
> > you look back at the last week or two, the majority of the "noise" on
> > this list comes from those who are responding and then enter a drawn out
> > argument as to why the initial post bothered 10,000 people.
> >
> > I believe the list volume would decrease by at least 50% if we all
> > simply took our disagreements off-list, or ignored messages that don't
> > belong.  And in the process, the "signal-to-noise ratio" here would
> > greatly improve.
> >
> > If you don't agree, please ignore this message or respond off-list.  If
> > you do agree, great.
> 
> The problem of taking these messages off list is exactly that no one
> else sees the answer or at least the reason for no answer. There are
> many lists that I come across that seem to think that answering via
> private email is a good idea. Trouble is that the information then isn't
> archived for later searchers to reap the benefit of the exchange.
> 
> If the occasional user doesn't get reminded publicly that what they did
> was wrong, you would have more people assuming it is okay to do the same
> thing.
> 
> If you didn't see the occasional person pulled over for speeding, would
> you eventually let your speed creep up while driving?
> 
> You are right though that the extra responses are usually not necessary.
> I understand that some feel the need to smooth the waters. I equate it
> to a child getting spanked by one parent and running crying to the other
> parent for some consoling. I am quick to "spank" users who misbehave.
> 
> --
> Steven Critchfield <critch at basesys.com>
> 
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