[Asterisk-Users] Realtime does not work yet, ...

[Mark Eissler]

On Mar 11, 2005, at 4:00 PM, Matthew Boehm wrote:

> Here is a perfect example of a lack of user->developer communication. 
> If
> developers don't hear your problems then we can't fix them.
>
> Did you post a bug report? Did you ask for support in -users? IRC? 
> Aparently
> not cause your problem could have been fixed.
>
> Seems like a very Microsoft-like attitude: If it don't work, don't 
> bother to
> fix it, just go back to what did work.
>
> Which res_config_* where you using? What did the debug say? What did 
> the
> backtrace say?
>
> -Matthew
>
> Mark Eissler wrote:
>> On Mar 11, 2005, at 2:38 PM, Cirelle Internet Products wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> We bailed on it for now, as it does  not appear to be 100%.
>>> Phones would not re-register, calls would fail.(just a lot of
>>> headaches)
>>>
>>
>> I tried out realtime a few weeks ago but stopped using it because it
>> seg faulted whenever I issued a reload command. At least back then it
>> was still too unstable for production. But I do look forward to a more
>> completed realtime....hopefully you'll be able to name tables whatever
>> you want then too! Like "voicemessages"....
>>

Well Matthew, no I did not file a bug report even though I do have a 
login on the bug tracker. In fact, if you hate the fact that I didn't 
submit a bug you will really hate the fact that I also have a couple of 
patches for features that I'd like to submit...and I also have a patch 
for a bug that was in head a few weeks ago but may actually be fixed 
now. The fact of the matter is it's not that I don't want to submit 
bugs or features that I like, heck, I'm tired of patching each release 
that comes out, its just that I've been too busy to review all of the 
rules and fill out and fax in a disclaimer to boot. I don't think it's 
the *user's* attitude that's a problem with fixing bugs in this 
project, giving feedback, etc., part of the blame IMHO is the 
development process, specifically the policies. They're not exactly 
motivational if you have several other projects that must take 
priority.

As for support in IRC or in -users? Are you kidding me? The IRC channel 
is a joke. Any time I've ever gone in there to post a question it gets 
promptly ignored so people can participate in more off-topic subject 
matter. The dev channel is pretty much dead. And although I hang around 
the -users list (this list) you may recall that a certain well-known 
participant (an asterisk developer, in fact) decided it was more 
important to insult me about one of my replies to a another user before 
that well-known poster went ahead and created a web page which pretty 
much re-iterates exactly what I had written already. So thanks for the 
inspirational message about why I, and other users, should drop 
everything else and sign up for even more abuse just because we found a 
bug.

-mark