[Asterisk-Users] Fwd: JE TROUVE QUE VOUS N'ETES PAS HONETE!

[Marcel van Kaam, Fonetica]

Marcel van Kaam
 
I agree with you Francesco.

It is as simple as this: If you want everything for free then sit on the
corner of the street with your hands open (called begging).

Open source means you also have to do something for it. You don't want to do
something for it, then you pay and hire somebody to do it for you.

Look for commercial assistance, pay for it and you get documentation,
support etc.
Try to find a PBX solution for free that can do what Asterisk can do. If you
find it, complete with documentation, support etc. Then comeback and wine
and nag about Asterisk.

If not; Please stop nagging.

You people make me so angry. Too lazy just to look around, solve a problem
and work for something that is for free.

This is my 75 Euro/hour advice.

Marcel 

-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Francesco
Peeters
Sent: maandag 27 juni 2005 8:50
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fwd: JE TROUVE QUE VOUS N'ETES PAS HONETE!

On Mon, June 27, 2005 0:15, harry gaillac said:
> I agree you.
>
> Does asterisk (Digium) project provide a good
> documentation ?
>
> Does Asterisk Handbook has been released ?
>
> When developpers improve Asterisk where are you
> looking for help, mailing list, wiki, asteriskdocs,
> ...-:(
>
> It's the job to all Asterisk developpers/users to
> provide docs on Asterisk.org.
>
> In fact Digium host both a open project and a
> commercial site.
> www.digium.com.         86299   IN      A
> 69.16.138.164
>
> www.asterisk.org.       86254   IN      A
> 69.16.138.164
>
> Asterisk/Digium don't provide docs so you have to pay
> for help or waste time to google.
>
> Open source community as often criticize enterprises
> like Microsoft, Cisco, ....
> However these ones pay R&D.
>
> May be enterprises like Digium an others want to earn
> money with works of open source community
>
> I tell to these enterprises you want to earn money do
> like Microsoft
>
> Harry from France
>
>
>> Je soupconne que votre application fonctionne tres
>> bien, mais que vous RENDEZ VONLONTAIREMENT
>> L'INSTALLATION DIFFICILLE. Pour que tout le monde
> soit
>> oblige de vous contacter et de vous payer: C'EST UNE
>> PRATIQUE TRES COURANTE DANS LE MONDE GPL, mais C'EST
>> MALHONNETE!
>>
>
>> > Jeam Marie K
>
>
Me thinks you haven't grasped the idea of OSS...

If you have a problem with it, do something about it! (Dig in the project
and write some good documentation!)

I am however surprized you say there is no documentation... Maybe you mean
no documentation in French? (It's only in France that it is obligatory to
supply French versions of everything you publish!) a quick google for
asterisk gives me a plethora of web-sites with documentation, how-to's,
etc.!

And as Areski said: if you have an issue, first contact the person(s)
involved. Only if they do NOT reply, solve or otherwise take satisfactory
action, you should consider going to the community like this! In the time
I have been on this list, I have seen many helpful (unpaid) posts by him,
and I think you have - unjustfully as far as I can tell - damaged his
reputation by this manner of behavior!

My EUR 0,02...

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