[Asterisk-Users] Bill seconds

[Terry H. Gilsenan]

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> Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Bill seconds
> 
> > > next month and tell hoe much cell phone costs you.
> > 
> > The point I was making is that the charges are NOT on _My_ 
> cell phone 
> > bill,
> 
> Why is it that if you pay 10 times as much to call a cell 
> phone you consider it NOT part of your cell phone bill? 

Who says I do? Where did you pull that "10 times" stuff? I don't have to pay
anything more to call a Cell phone that I do to call a land line. In fact
for the 5 mobiles that I own, (my family members) the calls between them and
my land lines are free.

Again, as the originator of the call I get to choose the amount I spend.

> Don't 
> you see how they succeeded in making you believe that your 
> cell phone is cheaper? I told you that none Amercians might 
> not understand this. :)

Yeah, I see how _some_ americans don't get it.....

> 
> > when I don't originate the call, however in .us if you get 
> called, you 
> > pay, that can easily cost you a heap of money that you can only 
> > control by switching the phone off, and where is the point in that?
> 
> Really?? cost you a heap of money? only by swithcing the phone off?
> what ever happened to not picking up? 

Ok, there is that, so long as you take time to determine whether you
recognise the number etc.... It does however make rec'ving calls on the Cell
phone much less attractive.

> what about unlimited 
> nights and weekends completely free that most providers give 
> you here. What about the fact that even when you do pay for 
> the incoming it costs around
> $.05 a minute? 

How about just not having to pay for incoming calls at all, that sounds much
better. It makes being in touch easier and cheaper.

> I think I said enough.

<chuckle> how does one respond to that?

> 
> > 
> > So if I rec'v 500 calls a week on my cell phone, it still 
> costs me nothing.
> 
> Wrong, because your provider succeeded in convincing your 
> freind to make the same calculation, so when you have to call 
> your friend you then pay 10 times as much than to a regular phone.

Pure and unadulterated crapola, did you know that when people pluck numbers
out of the air like that it belittles their entire point?

> 
> > And in some cases if I have the Cell and the Landline from the same 
> > telco (in .au), calls between them are free too, regardless 
> of where I 
> > happen to be in australia at the time.
> 
> So this we will take out of the argument since most American 
> providers don't charge in network either.

They do for out of zone calls, however with the telco I am using and the
account arrangements I have, it doesn't matter where the cell phone is, even
4000km away is still a free call to my home land line.

> 
> > 
> > Oh, and cucumber seem to be doing you no favours either....
> > 
> > I can place a call to the US using my Cell phone for 1-2c/minute, 
> > <shrug> Caviat Emptor?
> 
> Actualy you are right about this one, didn't realize they 
> changed the rates to au, it used to be $.039 a minute. Thanks 
> for pointing this out. In any case I know that Australia has 
> now very good rates to call UK and the states, but that is 
> only as far as LD goes.

I have VoIP for calls to the .us and .uk I also can route my call via my
home * box and then over VoIP to many other places to make the calls
*<free>* so with a call to .us for instance, I can use my cell to call one
of my home land lines *<free>* and then via * connect to the us using one of
the IP Telcos *<1c/min>* , or to my office in Houston to the * box there
*<free>*

Further: In the .US there is a groundswell of people that are angry with
telemarketers calling them on their cell phones, Why is this? A: because the
cost of the call is shifted to the called party, just like spam. The .au
model of "caller pays" has pretty much ensured that telemarketers wont be a
problem on _my_ cell phone.