[Asterisk-Users] Re: Re: Digium Website Update: Asterisk Business Edition

[Daryll Strauss]

On Sat, 2005-06-11 at 13:10 -0700, trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com
wrote:
> Look at 'big evil corporations' like apple.  They did in a year with
> mach what the FSF/GNU wants to do with HURD and still cant (to quote
> stallman 'its really hard' while explaining why after 10 years HURD
> still doesnt exist).  Apple was able to do this largely because they
> paid people to do it.  That money had to come from somewhere.  While
> apple did release darwin (the mach microkernel+ BSD components - but no
> mac components so largely not highly useful) under a license even the
> FSF claims is 'free'.  Had it not been for the 'big evil corporations'
> that would not have existed at all.

You're fairly off base with that paragraph. Mach was developed at
Carnegie Mellon. I'm not sure when it was started, but it was up and
running (with a full OS on top of it) when I was an undergrad there in
1984. 

NeXT took the CMU Mach and built an operating system on top of it. That
was up and running by 1988. 

Apple bought NeXT in late 1996. 

Apple released MacOS X based on NeXT's software in 2001

So, it's no where near Apple talking a year to do what GNU was trying to
do. You could argue it took Apple over 20 years to develop MacOS X. They
also took a significant amount of open source developed code (Mach, BSD,
etc) to do so. 

I'm a big fan of paying people to get development done in a timely
manner, but this really doesn't make your claim.

						- |Daryll