[Asterisk-Users] Re: So you all think VoIP sypply is warm andfuzzy

Jay Milk jay at skimmilk.net
Tue Jul 19 23:24:28 MST 2005 

That is correct -- the comparison was to SmellTel, not to VoipSupply.  

I have not dealt with VoipSupply personally, but from the professional
public responses to unprofessional public attacks, I don't doubt that
your business future is bright.

Much brighter than some of your customers are... Which in this case
isn't saying much ;-)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Garrett Smith [mailto:gsmith at voipsupply.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 5:33 PM
> To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
> Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Re: So you all think VoIP 
> sypply is warm andfuzzy
> 
> 
> I do not think, but then again I have been wrong before, that 
> Jay was comparing VoIPSupply to LiveVoIP. I believe that he 
> was comparing Mr. Schelin's company to LiveVoIP in the early stages.
> 
> We have been around for a few years enjoying enormous growth 
> in revenue, profit, and overall size quarter after quarter. 
> Comparing us to what LiveVoip was in its early stages is like 
> comparing apples to sandpaper.
> 
> 
> 
> Garrett Smith
> <gsmith at voipsupply.com>
> 716-250-3408 Direct
> 716-903-9495 Cell
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com
> [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of 
> Steve Totaro
> Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 8:15 PM
> To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
> Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: So you all think VoIP 
> sypply is warm andfuzzy
> 
> I dont agree.  I have only orderd from them once but they 
> delivered quickly. They are selling hardware which doesnt 
> have much room for markup but it does have a whole lot more 
> room than selling cutrate minutes.  Both business models are 
> based on volume but selling boxes has alot more room for 
> margin than minutes.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jay Milk" <jay at skimmilk.net>
> To: "'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial 
> Discussion'" <asterisk-users at lists.digium.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 9:36 AM
> Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Re: So you all think VoIP 
> sypply is warm andfuzzy
> 
> 
> > Obviously, Mikey isn't trying to run SPELLtel.  But all bitching 
> > aside, here's our chance to observe another LiveVOIP in the early 
> > stages.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Mark Musone [mailto:mmusone at gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 10:13 AM
> > > To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
> > > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: So you all think VoIP sypply is 
> > > warm andfuzzy
> > >
> > >
> > > ..all i know is that if this guy is bitching about a 
> non-existant CD 
> > > and is unable to provision a simple VOIP device, then i would be 
> > > terribly afraid of his companies technical ability for 
> their actual 
> > > VOIP service..
> > >
> > > scary..a VOIP provider that can't even provide themselves...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 7/19/05, Jason Stewart <jstewart at rtl.org> wrote:
> > > > On 18/07/05 17:06 -0700, Michael D Schelin wrote:
> > > > >    I was waiting for everyone to reply so here is mine..
> > > Check out the
> > > > >    Mediatrix web site. There are no downloads or lists of
> > > resellers who might
> > > > >    have this provisioning software that is normally
> > > included with purchase.
> > > > >    You may be right that it is a refurb but every
> > > indication points that it
> > > > >    is not.  I have contacted both companies and I'm
> > > waiting for replys. I'm
> > > > >    on the west coast and it took over 7 days to get here.
> > > I am a little
> > > > >    pissed when all other ATA's are configurable from
> > > their built in web
> > > > >    server. And Yes, I'm self serving as well as mostly
> > > everybody I've ran
> > > > >    into in this business.  This unit was purchased for
> > > testing. Because of
> > > > >    the timezone problem, When I get the product from UPS
> > > it's too late to
> > > > >    call Canada or FL. when all I need is a simple
> > > download to correct the
> > > > >    problem.  Is it too much to expect everything in the
> > > box when you purchase
> > > > >    it? Or have a web site with these free included
> > > software so if this
> > > > >    happens we don't wast our valuable time.  By the way I
> > > did get an email
> > > > >    from VOip Supply asking me to wait until morning so
> > > they could find the
> > > > >    software.  This is at 2:30 PST.  This complaint was to
> > > hear from others
> > > > >    about VoIP Supply and their business practices. I
> > > wanted to get feedback
> > > > >    ether way, or maybe a contact name so I can get this
> > > paper weight working
> > > > >    and tested.  Has anyone used the 2102? Please let me know.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Obviously you have a misunderstanding. Why not assume that
> > > there is a
> > > > misunderstanding, with voipsupply then work from there 
> instead of 
> > > > dumping your anger out on all of us?
> > > >
> > > > I don't doubt that there is a CD or there was once a CD
> > > that shipped
> > > > with the 2102, but - According to the Medaitrix Web Site...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- Copy and paste from mediatrix web site ---
> > > > With the Mediatrix 2102, service providers get the product 
> > > > characteristics allowing them to successfully deploy 
> residential 
> > > > IP telephony applications. The Mediatrix 2102 provides a web
> > > interface,
> > > > giving users a convenient access to the unit for initial
> > > set-up. The
> > > > Mediatrix 2102 can auto-provision by fetching its encrypted 
> > > > configuration file from a TFTP or HTTP server making 
> installation 
> > > > transparent to end-users. To further facilitate
> > > deployments, factory
> > > > loaded configurations are possible. Automatic firmware and 
> > > > configuration file downloads ensure that the 2102 is always 
> > > > up-to-date.
> > > > --- end ---
> > > >
> > > > You are supposed to use a web interface for initial set up.
> > > >
> > > > Jason
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