[Asterisk-Users] Re: bellster credits problem coming...

[Jay Milk]

Not true -- even if you didn't do anything, but allowed someone else to
use your equipment to do something, you can be held responsible -- and
at the very least, you'll have a major mess on your hands.
Personally, I consider my privacy (and that of my phone-line) to be more
important than a few dollars I can save on long distance -- and let's be
realistic, you can call anywhere in the US for under $1/hour, and many
places in the world for about the same.  I think it's a great service,
it's just not for me.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jay Austad [mailto:austad at signal15.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 4:32 PM
> To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
> Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: bellster credits problem coming...
> 
> 
> This is why you need to make sure to keep your call detail records 
> around.  Though it would likely be illegal, you could set up your 
> asterisk box to record every conversation that went through it also.  
> Bellster hopefully has logs of where calls originated from also.
> 
> If you didn't do anything, you shouldn't have anything to worry about.
> 
> ~jay
> 
> On Jan 25, 2005, at 1:05 PM, Jay Milk wrote:
> 
> > I think there are a few holes in the system as well.  Seems like I
> > could
> > offer a route to, say, Germany, which costs me 1.3c a 
> minute.  I offer
> > one call each day with the "10 min only" provision I've seen in the
> > route list.  In return, I get 10 US long distance calls every day, 
> > which
> > is pretty much all I need.  So for a mere $4/month, I get virtually
> > unlimited long distance.  Too good to be true?
> >
> > Another concern would be privacy and security -- block your CID all 
> > you want, you can still lift the number with the proper 
> equipment.  Or 
> > what if someone begins using your line to make prank (or worse, 
> > offensive) calls, call a bomb-threat into the White House, 
> etc.?  Too 
> > many scary scenarios.
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Samuel Tardieu [mailto:sam at rfc1149.net]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 11:05 AM
> >> To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
> >> Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Re: bellster credits problem coming...
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>> "Ed" == Ed Guy <edguy at pulver.com> writes:
> >>
> >> Ed> On the chargeable 800 numbers, please provide specific details 
> >> Ed> off-list.
> >>
> >> Ed, is there a specific bellster mailing-list where 
> pitfalls should 
> >> be reported?
> >>
> >> For example, if someone is offering 331 and 332 numbers (in
> >> France) at the same time, this person is probably using 
> the fact that 
> >> he doesn't pay for national calls.
> >>
> >> However, numbers starting with 33262 are *not* considered national 
> >> calls because they target landlines in La Reunion on the 
> other side 
> >> of the Earth. La Reunion is administratively part of France, but 
> >> calls terminating there from the metropolitan area are *very* 
> >> expensive, and not many people know that. I wonder whether 
> bellster 
> >> could check for the specific availability of those 
> numbers, which IMO 
> >> will cost a lot to people not paying attention...
> >>
> >>   Sam
> >> --
> >> Samuel Tardieu -- sam at rfc1149.net -- http://www.rfc1149.net/sam
> >>
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