[Asterisk-Users] SIP Subscriptions

[Alex Vishnev]

Doug,

If you stop complaining and listen to what people are saying, you would be
able to accomplish your goals. Some of your points have merit, but you are
asking for help in all the wrong ways. Please remember, this list is for
users, not developers. The user community is quite extensive in their
backgrounds. Not all of us are developers or linux experts. There are people
on the list that have used Asterisk and installed them in many "enterprise"
environments, even though you claim it is not enterprise ready. My point is,
instead of annoying everyone and triggering angry replies, you should change
your tactic. Right now, you are not getting any useful information and
flooding everyone's mail boxes with useless stuff. For example, you already
heard that subscriptions in asterisk are work-in-progress. The entire
project is work-in-progress. There are stable features and there are new
features that are being worked on. If you respect the community, the
community will respect you and give you what you need. I have been involved
with asterisk for more then 1 year, and have nothing but good to say about
people on this list and developers of asterisk.org in general.  But,
never... never... piss off these people, or you may as well quit your job
and go do something else. There are a lot of experience on this list in
Asterisk and Data Processing in general (i.e. people smarter then you are
;-). I think one of your mistake is that you trying to depend 100% on
Asterisk to do the job. Asterisk is just a growing baby. It is growing fast,
but still needs time. As a growing child, it has it challenges/problems and
solutions. The solutions may not be very elegant and could only be
temporary, but they are solutions to solve immediate business needs. Instead
of complaining how inadequate redundancy is with asterisk, you should ask
how to architect redundancy with asterisk. I have seen a number of solutions
on the list regarding this. There were some that were done purely in
asterisk and some were done using SER and Asterisk. Just to prove my point
that there are people with solutions out in the community that are willing
to help and share their experience, if you ask politely and with respect.
Otherwise, you just get angry replies and people calling you nasty names. If
you enjoy this, you can continue, but a lot of people will put you in their
ignore lists and soon you will be talking to yourself. 

Ok... that's just my advice to you... you can take or leave it. But I
strongly suggest you take it. It will make your job SO MUCH EASIER!!! Again,
just my .2c

Alex

Message: 10
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 20:52:55 -0700
From: "Douglas Garstang" <dgarstang at oneeighty.com>
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] SIP Subscriptions
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Seems someone has some anger management issues. As I just stated in a
previous post, it seems you have issues with me asking valid questions. I'm
not sure why that is. The long email you rattled off with all my questions
where quite valid. Your issue with that is.....?