[Asterisk-Users] Cisco SIP Firmware Price Increase

[Rich Adamson]

>  >> > Not that I know of I am a Cisco partner and the Category 1 contract
>  >>is still at least half that or less.
>  >>
>  >>He was talking about the SIP-license... Not the SmartNET. If you have a
>  >>SmartNET, you CAN download the SIP load but to use it, you need the 
> license.
>  >
>  >
>  >I think that's the point; to use sip "please pay an additional $150US".
>  >Downloading the image is supposedly illegal unless you have a license.
>  >Now, what is the true list price of a new 7960 with sip? (Be careful to
>  >read the license terms before answering that question.)
>  >
> 
> You suffer from two fundamental misunderstandings:

I don't think so, but maybe we're bumping up against the words that
are being used here. Split this into three questions, and answer those
questions with some assurance that legal licensing issues are addressed.

1) part of the discussion was "if you owned a 7960", what is required
to obtain a sip image and legally use it (that obviously assumes some
other image is installed on the 7960)?

2) if one ordered a brand new 7960 from an authorized cisco reseller,
what exactly 'must' be purchased (with costs) to use that 7960 in a
sip environment?

3) if one purchased a 7960 on ebay (or some non-cisco reseller), what
exactly must be ordered to legally use that phone in a sip environment?


> 1) The SmartNET does not permit you to download the firmware. It does 
> permit you to UPGRADE your licensed firmware. It might be Cisco's error 
> to have not separated the downloads by firmware versions or protocols. 
> However, to be able to do something never meant to be allowed to do it, 
> right?
> 
> 2) You also need a license for using a 7960 with the Cisco Call Manager.
> The trick is to figure out if you bought the license with the CCM itself 
> or if you need to buy an additional CCM One Station User License which 
> cost exactly the same as the SIP license.
> 
> If you want a SIP phone and know it before buying, you should buy a 
> phone WITHOUT the CCM license. Most dealers sell Cisco IP phones 
> INCLUDING this CCM license. To be sure, order a "spare" phone:
> 
> CP-7960G= Cisco IP Phone 7960G, Global, Spare D $415
> CP-7940G= Cisco IP Phone 7940G, Global, Spare D $315
> CP-7936=  IP Conference Station, Spare        D $1.195
> CP-7912G= Cisco IP Phone 7912G, Global, Spare D $245
> CP-7905G= Cisco IP Phone 7905G, Global, Spare D $165
> 
> Don't forget the power supply if you don't have a Cisco PoE switch
> CP-PWR-CUBE-2 IP Phone power transformer for the 7900 phone series D $45
> 
> and the power cord
> CP-PWR-CORD-NA= 7900 Series Transformer Power Cord, North America  N/A $10
> CP-PWR-CORD-CE= 7900 Series Transformer Power Cord, Central Europe N/A $10
> CP-PWR-CORD-UK= 7900 Series Transformer Power Cord, United Kingdom N/A $10
> CP-PWR-CORD-AU= 7900 Series Transformer Power Cord, Australia      N/A $10
> CP-PWR-CORD-JP= 7900 Series Transformer Power Cord, Japan          N/A $10
> CP-PWR-CORD-AP= 7900 Series Asia Pacific Power Cord                N/A $10
> 
> Not to mention that street prices are substantially lower than Global 
> Pricelist values...