[Asterisk-Users] RE: Ebay listing selling Asterisk @ Home and AMPfor over 1000 dollars

[Robert Webb]

> Robert Webb wrote:
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> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com
> >>[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of dean 
> >>collins
> >>Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 5:35 PM
> >>To: charlie at osstyn.demon.co.uk; Asterisk Users Mailing List - 
> >>Non-Commercial Discussion
> >>Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] RE: Ebay listing selling 
> Asterisk @ Home 
> >>and AMPfor over 1000 dollars
> >>
> >>Lol, just posted a question to the list that should keep away any 
> >>bidders.
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> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com
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> >>>bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Charles Osstyn
> >>>Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 4:01 PM
> >>>To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
> >>>Subject: [Asterisk-Users] RE: Ebay listing selling Asterisk
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> >>@ Home and
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> >>>AMPfor over 1000 dollars
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> >>>Is this ok to sell this on Ebay when they are using open source
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> >>software?
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> >>>http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5766004579
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> >>>Hoping to have helped,
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> ><SNIP GARBAGE>
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> >While I agree that it is ok to sell packages such as this, I 
> do have to 
> >inquire as to whether the proper credit has been given for 
> all of the 
> >modifications in branding and such from the Asterisk at Home, AMP, and 
> >other projects that this company has used. I have asked for 
> proof of it 
> >as I am leary that they have when in there advertisement for the 
> >product they clearly state:
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> >"We have also built in a Web GUI for call accounting records 
> (databased 
> >in MySQL). Also builtin is the AsteriskGUI Operator Panel. 
> This panel 
> >will show actual realtime call activity, allow an operator or 
> >administrator to disconnect calls, create conferences, or initiate 
> >calls internally or externally by the click of the mouse 
> from any web 
> >browser, internal to your office, or with a change to your 
> router, even 
> >external management as well."
> >
> >Making it seem that they are the creators of everything 
> except for the 
> >* server.
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> As not native English speaker I would not see that "built in" 
> means that they made it, ... for me it just says installed and setup.
> (compare it with a workshop for your car, if they "build 
> into" your car a stereo, than they certainly did not "create" 
> the stereo) All in all, I would not see any problem with 
> selling it on E-bay. ONLY that the picture of Asterisk CDR 
> has been changed to their name, but if they still give the 
> credit to the original it is still ok.
> The buyer decides if he accepts the price or not.
> 
> I saw another company, who made "fun" with the credit!!! The offered a
> 14 page credit list. Pick what is really inside!!!!
> 
> 
> bye
> 
> Ronald


I see where you are coming from. However, when I read or hear someone
say "We have built in" something into a system, to me that implies they
designed it and are taking the credit for it. Yes, that have given a
bulleted list of items included in the package. But no where in their
advertisement nor in the screenshots that I can see, do they give credit
to anyone other than Asterisk for the package. And the entire thing
appears to be completely built off of the Asterisk at Home project that is
certainly a lot easier to setup than what they claim in that writing.

Robert