[Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Google Group?

Damon Estep damon at suburbanbroadband.net
Fri Apr 8 11:03:35 MST 2005


> >> >
> > Postings to google are not mirrored here, tried it. I think we are
going
> > to start seeing many people new to * using the google group and not
> > getting the benefit of the infinite wisdom here.
> >
> They will if google keeps getting the content from this list.  The
> problem would be that people on a google group say something that may
> help people here and we dont see it.
> 
> I have a problem with what happened last night in relation to the
google
> groups.  Google sent out emails to a couple different lists I am on
(and
> an unknown quantity of lists I am not on) saying that the list is not
> subscribed to google groups.  This is blatent spam from a company I
used
> to respect and like.
> 
> Googles refusal to fix the 302 redirect problem which has caused their
> search results to be less accurate and now basically hijacking mailing
> lists on a one sided basis is further cause for concern.  By feeding
the
> content of lists into their database to get people to goto their
webpage
> and start threads there that are not shared with the list means its a
> fork of the list and creates less info sharing.  Its a good idea that
> was poorly implemented.
> 
> 
> > I can not imagine how you would sync them, that would only result in
a
> > circular posting nightmare.
> > _______________________________
> 
> google could do it if they wanted.  They obviously have a subscription
> to the list or they wouldnt be able to get them.  Well not obviously,
> they could be going to gmane or other mail -> NNTP services that
already
> exist.
> 
> If google did subscribe to the list to get content from the list, they
> could easily post to the list as well.  Although authentication may be
> an issue if a list is 'closed' and google tries to insert the email
> address supplied via their webpage.
> 
> Regardless google could easily filter it so it only sends to the list
> what is entered via a webpage and not everything it gets in its
'inbox'.
> That would be an ideal solution so there is effectively not two
> repositories of information, one on google and the list which would
> effectively a subset of the information on their list.
> 
> I do have some other issues with google groups, right after Sept 11,
> 2001 google decided to delete many posts that were in their groups.
> These were '911 propechy posts'.  If they will delete for that reason,
> and keep it silent that they did it as well as why, what would prevent
> them from say not putting this post up because its not in googles best
> interest?  What would prevent them from putting up other posts that
have
> valid information in them just because google does not want people to
be
> able to see the information?
> 
> But now I am just ranting and I have to fix the ram in this system so
I
> will leave this issue alone.
> 
> --
> Trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com

Not to mention that the Google bounce servers are on every RBL in the
world.



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