[Asterisk-Users] Are there online forums instead of this email

[Tim Bass]

The purpose of all support groups, forums and lists are to support users who
need help, not to insult them. When people make mistakes and post in the
wrong place, we don't insult them or call them names, and if a moderator did
not have time to move the post in a wrong forum to another one, that is not
such a serious issue, vice having a bit of profanity laced discussions with
women and students in the community.



-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Incoming
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 10:32 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Are there online forums instead of this email


It leaves the IQ level too low, and I don't mean this to be insulting, 
but browsing through the Unix for Advanced and Expert Users I came 
across one question about how to use tar, and the other advanced users 
got confused that he was extracting it from a tape device, and not a 
file, one about how signal's work(didn't google for it, not removed by a 
mod either??), and one from a guy who doesn't know how to disable user 
logins.

There's nothing at all wrong with these questions, we all had to start 
from somewhere, but "Unix for Advanced and Expert Users" who can't "man 
tar" or google something(heck, those last two questions I'd say you're 
far from an expert user to begin with). We don't want this on the list, 
and it gets shouted down pretty quick, but on a forum they are running 
rampant without mods right now. Again, this isn't an attack, but I don't 
want to be going through some forums looking for real questions and 
answers on topics such as "What is a Readme file?" "How do I compile" 
"Help! My mkae program isn't found!" etc.... in the "Asterisk Advanced 
Users" section. Sorry, that doesn't build an online community, that 
draws people away, and a lot of people here don't have time nor want a 
community.

I won't go into the site design and layout, which takes about 2 minutes 
to load per page on my GPRS connection on my phone, whereas my IMAP over 
SSL with fully supported client on my phone works just great. I won't 
even start with the silly pictures next to peoples names, the # of 
posts(how is this helping me again?) or when they joined(again, doesn't 
answer my questions!).

Sorry, set one up, and people will go. The big unofficial one is at 
http://asterisk.xvoip.com/ looks kinda busy too. But please, get of this 
list, your opinion has been heart and noted. Thank you very much.

Also, by asking how to get ahold of the digium people, you've got me 
further turned off from the forums idea, that isn't a question for the 
list, or for a forum. It took me <10secs to find the answer. No offense, 
set one up, or use the xvoip.com one. I'll probably check it out on 
ocassion, but between this list(ask questions) and the wiki(answers to 
pretty much anything that may have come up before) I'm quite sated. 
Thanks for the offer though! =)

--Joseph

Tim Bass wrote:

>When building an on-line community with robust software such as 
>vBulletin, it is easy to find someone who will create a customized 
>"hack" that will do as you suggest.
>
>For example, posters who want to receive the full email message could, 
>by checking a box, get the entire message emailed to them.
>
>Most forum software (vBulletin does) offers "instant notification" 
>out-of-the-box, including a "nicely formatted" entire message would not 
>be very difficult and there is more-than-likely this "hack" available 
>at www.vbulletin.org
>
>.....
>
>Query:  Could someone post or email me directly the email addresses of 
>the Digium people responsible for this "list" service?
>
>I'll be glad to discuss with them, directly, off the email list server.
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com
>[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Francesco 
>Peeters
>Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 8:31 AM
>To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
>Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Are there online forums instead of this 
>email
>
>
>
>Your points about Subscription and Topic choice are valid, and the 
>ideal would be a forum that would behave like a maillist... I.e. post 
>and read either on web or mail, and it'll get where it should be... It 
>is difficult though.
>
>Totally OT:
>I have been looking at this as a plugin for my own (non tech) 
>WebBBS/Forum, but the problem is that not all clients adhered to the 
>'references' SMTP-header behavior at that time...
>
>I haven't looked at that for a while now, so that may have changed...
>
>(Besides that I unfortunately do not have time to write such an 
>extension at this point in time... It'd be an interesting challenge 
>tho...)
>
>  
>

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