[Asterisk-Users] Re: How far is IAX to be a Standard

[Steve Totaro]

This thread was started by Randy Bush, thought that name rang a bell.  Good 
conversation nonetheless.

http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2004-July/053278.html


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From: "Benjamin on Asterisk Mailing Lists" <benjk.on.asterisk.ml at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: How far is IAX to be a Standard


>> >Try travelling in Africa, the Middle East and South Asia, where
>> >everything is still mostly dialup and many of the phone wires
>> >installed go back before the time when plastic was invented.
>>
>> So SIP doesn't work on dialup? That's funny 'cause I'm using it like 
>> that...
>
> That's not what I said. I said "Try travelling in Africa, the Middle
> East and South Asia" and that is precisely what I meant. I have been
> doing a lot of travelling in those places and in many situations and
> places the only thing that worked was IAX and ILBC.
>
> You may want to search the archives of this list because this has been
> discussed many times before and I have explained my observations in
> quite some detail. You will also see that it won't make any sense for
> you to come back saying that I am too stupid to set up a SIP
> connection and that this would have to be the only reason why SIP
> didn't work while IAX did, because I had already explained in those
> earlier discussions that we had been competing against the big names
> in the industry, the cream of the cream, who came with their SIP gear
> and their SIP specialists, and they couldn't get VoIP to work where we
> could with IAX.
>
>> If you don't agree that having IAX ratified into a standard would be a
>> help, well, that's where we differ.
>
> I have been nagging Mark for some time about getting an IAX RFC
> initiative under way, and I have offered my help to Frank Miller
> drafting call flow charts and whatever other limited assistance I
> could be of in his aim to eventually evolve his IAX specification
> document to the point where it would be suitable for submission to the
> IETF. So, we are certainly not in disagreement about the benefit of
> such an initiative.
>
> However, I disagree with the notion that only big industry player
> backed proposals pushed by plenty of lobbying have a chance of
> succeeding as standards. Many of the most important internet protocols
> have all been single inventor designs which became standard through
> grassroots adoption.
>
> I certainly believe that IAX has gained enough momentum to become a
> major standard without the marketing and lobbying dollars that have by
> now been thrown behind SIP.
>
> rgds
> benjk
>
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