[Asterisk-Users] How does Norvergence do it ?

[Michael Miller]

The rental agreement left with me can be found at http://www.cedillas.com.

Michael

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I will scan it when I get home tonight and post the url to download it from.

Michael

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[mailto:asterisk-users-admin at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of J Poz
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 10:51 AM
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Yes, I would like to see the contract.............

Michael Miller <mailing-lists at cedillas.com> wrote: 
I have a good friend who used to be a sales rep for them. The entire sales
pitch is based on making the customer believe that they are lucky to have
been offered the opportunity to beome a Norvergence customer as they are
extremely selective. If any technical question where to come up, he was
trained to let them know that they where not selected to be part of the
program and to move on quickly.

I do have a copy of their contract if anyone is interested is taking a look
at it. It is an interesting piece of legal work.

Michael

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[mailto:asterisk-users-admin at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of J Poz
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 9:45 AM
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Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] How does Norvergence do it ?

Wow, that was GREAT info... I'm in the NY tri-state area so I'm sure I will
run into them as competition. Thanks for sending that link - it's
unbelievable; also proves the power of such emailing lists where we can
share this type of information about unethical companies!

Neil Grant <Neil.Grant at fasthosts.co.uk> wrote: 
Found this:

http://w3.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff89155.htm

Many other nasty stories about them too.

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Cheers,

Neil

-----Original Message-----
From: willy at yponeinc.com [mailto:willy at yponeinc.com] 
Sent: 04 May 2004 12:51
To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] How does Norvergence do it ?

So a guy shows up at the the office, after making an
appointment with the office manager / receptionist to talk
'phone systems'.
After her eyes glaze over, with him talking T1 and
Frame-Relay I get to see him. He's from Norvergence. Well
dressed. Tells me they can do a T1 for $79, with unlimited
local & long distance for free. It also does 'internet'.
'Just give me copies of your phone bill'. I ask some
questions, like number porting, like provisioning of DID
numbers, like CIR on the data etc. Now HIS eyes glaze over.
That's technical talk ... He's just there to follow up on
the appointment and 'qualify' the customer to see if we are
worthy of their cheap service. After I looked at their
website, I can hear 'quack quack'.
Cheers,
WW 

Willy Wouters
ypOne Publishing

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