[Asterisk-Users] determining legal VoIP service

Stephen Wingfield steve at bicom.us
Sat Jan 31 05:58:49 MST 2004


I heard this argument when in SA by a group using Net2Phone- it was not
accepted by the head of the Foreign Department of Telkom with whom I also
spoke. Also of importance is that in many countries there have been police
raids and confiscation of equipment used by CallShops because the CallShops
are deemed by the incumbent to be 'breaking out'. You by offering these
services would be encouraging them to do so. For consumers their task is
impossible.
At this point it is mostly about MONEY - if the equipment used is cheaply
priced it may be worthwhile for your customers to just have it raided once
in a while or if your rates so good they can afford the bribes to keep the
police out.

As far as your legal position it comes down to TWO things: 1. What that
state says 2. Their ability to enforce it

With Spain it is part of the European Union and Free Competition
legilslation so there is no issue at all.
With Nigeria it is illegal however even if their courts obtain judgement
against you (probably without you knowing) they would be set upon the task
of taking the judgement to your juristiction to enforce it - if where you
live has a bilateral agreement with that country.

Final comment - there are a lot of people doing what you want to out of
Nigeria. I even know of one guy who is married to a barrister. I don't think
you will have a problem finding people who will want to do the business.

Stephen Wingfield


> Actually I believe this is one of the few things that can be done
> without worrying about the state(s) PUC coming down on your head. Since
> your users are in another country the state PUC cannot consider you
> providing a telephone service in their jurisdiction.
>
> - Dustin -
>
> Walker Haddock wrote:
>
> > Can anyone recommend who we can consult with that could provide advice
on the legality of a proposed VoIP service.  Specifically, we would provide
VoIP termination in the USA to clients in Spain, Nigeria and Guana.  The
termination service would connect the VoIP clients to the PSTN through a
carrier like MCI, Verizon, etc.  The calls placed would connect anywhere in
the world via the USA carrier.
> >
> > Thanks, Walker
>
>
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