[Asterisk-Users] ultra-cheap asterisk box

Paul Mahler pmahler at signate.com
Sat Jan 17 09:08:35 MST 2004 

You can get a DELL 400SC server for $400 or so. www.dell.com

Check out the refurbished units, although lately the new ones have been a
better deal.

Paul

 
Paul Mahler 
-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-users-admin at lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-admin at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Aram
Ter-Martirosyan
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 6:22 PM
To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] ultra-cheap asterisk box

	I don't need to use the lowest end server for asterisk, but
something
reasonable.  I need to put one TE410P and 2 TDM400P boards in it.  We have
about 20 heavy telephone users in the company.  Can someone suggest
reasonable priced and reliable box?

	Thanks,

Aram Ter-Martirosyan
Senior Account Manager
Hi-Tech Gateway, Inc.
http://www.hi-teck.com
1225 Grand Central Ave.
Glendale, CA 91201
aram at hi-teck.com
tel 818.546.4601
fax 818.546.4617
Turning Technology Into Business Solutions


-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-users-admin at lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-admin at lists.digium.com]On Behalf Of James H.
Thompson
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 5:44 PM
To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] ultra-cheap asterisk box


FAQ for Dell 400SC:

    http://www.aaltonen.us/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8


Jim

James H. Thompson
jht at lava.net

----- Original Message -----
From: "calvis" <calvis at itechgroup.com>
To: <asterisk-users at lists.digium.com>
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 10:33 AM
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] ultra-cheap asterisk box


I got in on the same Dell deal I think.

You must hang out on the bargain boards just like I do?  I hang out mainly
at fatwallet.com.   This is the thread that I got in on the Dell machines
that I just recently purchased.

http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/messageview.php?start=920&catid=24&threadid=
264777

I found out by another 400SC user and you can not control assign interrupts
on the PCI slots on this machine.   Does that point bother you if you are
going to run this unit with *?   I want to put 3 X100P cards and 1 TDM400P
in my up coming 400SC, but not sure if I will have conflict if I use up all
the PCI slots in the machine.


Charles Alvis
Internet Technology Group
Redmond, WA




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[mailto:asterisk-users-admin at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Paul Mahler
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 4:54 PM
To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] ultra-cheap asterisk box

I have a Dell 400sc sever on order. It will be shipped on the 27th. It is a
2.4GHz P4 with a 533 MHz front side bus, a 40GB disk, 128MB of memory, sound
card, ethernet, and year of on-site next day maintenance.

It is $318 delivered after rebates. Yes, $318.

This is a real server, by the way, not a desktop machine. It also makes NO
noise. I can't hear a thing with my ear right next to it.

Why would you even THINK about getting anything else?

Paul

Paul Mahler
mail:pmahler at signate.com
phone: 650.207.9855
fax: 877.408.0105

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[mailto:asterisk-users-admin at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Chris Albertson
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 9:32 AM
To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] ultra-cheap asterisk box



I'm looking to do about the same thing, build very low cost
systems.  (I'm looking at putting Asterisk at some
non-profit organizations.)   but one thing you can't make
a compromise on is reliabilty.  It has to work and keep working
for years to come.  I was able to keep the price of a new PC
to about $300 ad still use an ASUS mainboard and an AMD XP2600+
The trick is to add absolutly nothing not needed.  No floppy,
no CDROM so you can run off a 200W P/S.  Next I'll experiment
with a notebook sized IDE disk drives and to see if _underclocking_
the CPU reduces it's power comsumption enough that we can save
one fan.

Ideally Asterisk will be ported one day to Linux/ARM or some
other very low cost platform.  for VOIP you do not need the
PCI slots.  In theory Asterisk could run on a Lynksys router
box with re-flashed EEPROM.  After all Lynksys' latest wireless
router runs Linux inside

Low cost to me means "low total cost of ownership"  To get this
I don't think buying the lowest priced parts is the way to go.
I want quality mainboard, and a quality power supply and, this
is importernt:  A low internal case temperature.  for this reason
I'll spend the extra $50 to go with Antec cases and ASUS mainboards
over the generic ones.

What I'm finding is that the PCs are so cheap that the cost of
electric power to run them is now a large part of the cost.
(assume 0.20/kwh times 200W times 365 days = $350.  So you
pay for the PC again every year in electric power to run it.
Worse.  In an office with airconditioning _all_ of that PC's
200W goes to heat and your A/C unit will use about 220W of
power to remove that 200W of heat.)
and at a small office they will not have a server room so noise
from the fan is an issue.

--- Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk <roy at karlsbakk.net> wrote:
> hi all
>
> what about this...
> I just put together a box on a web shop (komplett.no) that will cost
> me
> NOK ~1850 (¤ 216) plus a small ¤50 drive and cables, so say ¤300.
> This
> consists of a cheap MB with a duron 1400, 256MB SDRAM and two HFC-PCI
> cards (if capijod will finish off the zaptel-driver soon). This is
> all
> in a cheap PC case.
>
> What do you think? Should this be doable? as a product? With only IP
> phones and potentially a fax solution? any ideas?
>
> thanks
>
> roy
>
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