[Asterisk-Users] New to asterisk? RUN... don't walk.

[Paul Mahler]

As far as your original post goes, Asterisk doesn't regularly segment fault.
There are many stable installations. We have a bunch of happy users. This is
remarkable since Asterisk is still a beta product. 

There is plenty of useful information on the sites you panned if you are
smart enough to find it. Paid support is available from Digium if you don't
like the free support or are to dumb or lazy to figure things out for
yourself.

The Asterisk community is in general very supportive of beginners, although
not of stupidity or sloth.

Lastly, anything that may be wrong with Asterisk is being fixed in a big
hurry. It's already better than the proprietary systems, even though it's
still a beta product, and it's free for god's sake. 

In a few years, Asterisk will be a polished product in general release and
you will have missed the boat. 

Don't quit your day job. It's not going to be easy to find someone else who
will hire you. 

You should find a different group to read.

Regards, 

 
Paul Mahler 
mail:pmahler at signate.com
phone: 650.207.9855
fax: 877.408.0105

-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-users-admin at lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-admin at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Steven
Critchfield
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 5:37 PM
To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] New to asterisk? RUN... don't walk.

On Sat, 2004-01-03 at 14:12, Me wrote:
> Mr. West,
> 
> Sorry to burst your bubble, but that is not me.  My
> name is Barbara Simpson.  Either you are lying or
> someone is trying to remove any credibility from my
> original post.  I now stand by my original post with
> more conviction than ever.

You had little to no credibility when you show up acting like a troll
from what most people would consider a throw away account. 

> There were a lot of insightful replies.  However, none
> of them were able to address the real problems of the
> asterisk community and come up with solutions.  If you
> can't see your own faults, you are in for a bumpy
> ride.

This is due to the problem residing in the general population, not the
community. The problem resides in users who can't be bothered to either
expend energy, or patience for the software to develop. Remember you
came here, we didn't go recruiting you. So if you are disappointed in
your experience, blame yourself for your expectations. As far as I can
tell here, you haven't paid a single person for anything, so any help
you have received has been at a cost to the other people of this
community. 

So the solution is for you to grow up. You need to learn that the
comment you have made in this thread are worthless as they don't advance
anything here. If you want credibility in a technical forum, you will
have to show some technical skills. Otherwise you will be cast aside and
hopefully ignored. 

> Barbara Simpson
> Qwest Voice Over Packet Services
> 
> --- Brian West <brian at bkw.org> wrote:
> > You said it good.... Look what this person posted to
> > my blog... Now thats
> > what I call grown up.
> > 
> > Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 10:10:24 -0600
> > From: two_shoes_2002 at yahoo.com
> > To: brian at bkw.org
> > 
> > IP Address: 24.10.200.168
> > Name: Jeff Sowery
> > Email Address: two_shoes_2002 at yahoo.com
> > URL:
> > 
> > Comments:
> > 
> > You're a complete idiot.  Grow a brain or at least
> > some balls.
> > 
> > -Jeff
> > 
> > 
> > NEXT!!!
> > 
> > bkw
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, 1 Jan 2004, JR Richardson wrote:
> > 
> > > Piping in 2 cents,
> > >
> > > This is a great example of the Internet, Fast Food
> > generation, showing their
> > > appreciation for all the magic that happens in the
> > labs, hearts and minds of
> > > the courageous, hard working, dedicated and
> > motivated group of people truly
> > > interested and guided to accomplish greatness.
> > >
> > > This platform for learning is one of the best
> > tools in existence to come to
> > > a finite understanding of VoIP and legacy
> > telephony with the versatility to
> > > expand beyond and develop originality in the field
> > of telecommunications
> > > excellence, product development.  Learn it,
> > understand it, appreciate it,
> > > then take it past where you found it and if you're
> > capable contribute, if
> > > not, enjoy it.  But always, always maintain
> > respect for those who created it
> > > and continue to refine it.
> > >
> > > Learning is intrinsically human, and in this world
> > of Industry ("There is no
> > > substitution for knowledge." [Edward Deming]). 
> > Find your inner child,
> > > re-capture and embrace what God has given you, the
> > ability to learn.  It
> > > will require you to put down the remote control,
> > get off the couch and
> > > decrease your apparently frequent visits to
> > McDonalds.  Search and find the
> > > knowledge which you seek to ultimately fulfill
> > your destiny; build an
> > > Asterisk Server that works.
> > >
> > > Hell, we all did.
> > >
> > > JR
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 12:37:24 -0800 (PST)
> > > > From: Me <two_shoes_2002 at yahoo.com>
> > > > To: Asterisk-Users at lists.digium.com
> > > > Subject: [Asterisk-Users] New to asterisk? 
> > RUN... don't walk.
> > > > Reply-To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
> > > >
> > > > As a newcomer to Asterisk, you will not be
> > welcomed
> > > > with open arms.  First, you will find almost no
> > > > documentation on it's features.  Second, if you
> > try to
> > > > ask questions, you will be flamed and pointed to
> > > > worthless how-tos and 'the wiki'.  These
> > worthless
> > > > documents can only be useful for explaining how
> > things
> > > > work to those already in-the-know.  Lastly,
> > Asterisk
> > > > is so bug ridden, expect frequent segmentation
> > faults.
> > > >  With a community so 'anti-n00b', don't expect
> > your
> > > > problems to be fixed anytime soon.
> > > >
> > > > RUN!!! Don't walk... away from Aterisk.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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