[Asterisk-Users] VoiceConduits - Notice, Apology, and Clarification

[Marc Storck]

Hello,

what made me think most of a scam was the fact that nobody responded to 
my support request, nobody sent me a notice that the service is not yet 
actively marketed, there was/is no notice on the website. If only 5 
users where able to sign up and I'm one of them, then it shouldn't have 
been that difficult to contact those users and tell them what's up with 
voiceconduits.

I would be happy to get the ordered TollFree numbers online... I hope 
they were not part of the deal with that company just passing away....

Althought I didn't get a call, please accept my apologies, I'll be more 
than happy to use your services as soon as they are available, or even 
as test-user (but please tell me so ;-) )

Thank you for your messages to the list,

Marc

Kristian Kielhofner wrote:
> ml-asterisk-users at voiceconduits.com wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>>
>>  
>>
>> This is David Deutsch, and I’m the owner of VoiceConduits. There seems 
>> to be some confusion related to our company, regarding the past few 
>> posts.
>>
>>  
>>
>> VoiceConduits is currently NOT open for public business, we have never 
>> to date advertised or attempted to attract business. It appears that a 
>> few people heard about our company via a mention in a SineApps article 
>> and found our beta system that is under development. We apologize that 
>> a few people managed to sign up via this interface, and we will 
>> happily refund anyone who did so immediately, additionally we will 
>> supply them with free credit to be used once we are in fact live.
>>
>>  
>>
>> It was certainly never our intention to “defraud” individuals of the 
>> asterisk or voip community, our understanding is that only 5 people 
>> have managed to signup thru this automated system, and we will be 
>> contacting each of them individually to insure they are refunded and 
>> happy with the resolution.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>>  
>>
>> David Deutsch, President
>>
>> Tris Telecommunications, LLC
>>
>> (800) 547-4057 x1001
>>
> 
> David,
> 
>     Thank you for calling me and clearing things up.  It seems that once 
> you have VoiceConduits up and running it will be an excellent service. I 
> really do look forward to doing business with VoiceConduits.  For the 
> record:
> 
> 1) The Sri Lanka number was a cell phone in India, where David was 
> helping with the tsunami.
> 
> 2) The Wyoming \ Nevada inc. thing, was done to minimize personal 
> liability, as in Delaware.  Why I don't necessarily agree with it, I can 
> certainly understand why you would want to do it...
> 
>     In the world of spam and shoddy internet transactions, it is not 
> that hard to at least make your company LOOK legitimate.  This includes 
> valid contact numbers, good communication, accurate WHOIS records, 
> etc.   I can appreciate that you were not ready for business, but it is 
> not that hard to block the sign-up portion of your site until you are 
> ready. Hopefully this whole thread can be a lesson to someone looking to 
> setup a business and avoid this kind of thing.
> 
> Brian, David, anyone else, my sincerest apologies.
> 
> -- 
> Kristian Kielhofner
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