[Asterisk-Users] eBay Sip Phone Scam.

Thu Oct 2 06:08:37 MST 2003

More specifically...   http://www.chagres.net/products/voip/phones.html

-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-users-admin at lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-admin at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of costas 
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 9:04 AM
To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] eBay Sip Phone Scam.

Ok, in addition you are confusing the 102 with the 102D. If you had done
your homework you would have noticed that the 102D (see the big D?) is a
different model.

Than one has the 16x2 LCD and 3 way conferencing. I spent a lot of time
studying these phones.

So no, you don't have that phone. check http://www.chagres.net

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Josh Roberson" <twisted at indigent.sytes.net>
Reply-To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
Date:  Thu, 2 Oct 2003 07:31:43 -0500

>My bad... It's a .net, not a .com :P
>
>Oops... Sorry JMB (sheepish grin)
>
>http://www.chagres.net
>
>--------------------------
>Josh Roberson
>Indigent Networks
>1.877.677.9647 x1
>twisted at indigent.sytes.net
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: asterisk-users-admin at lists.digium.com
>[mailto:asterisk-users-admin at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Low, Adam
>Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 6:22 AM
>To: 'asterisk-users at lists.digium.com '
>Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] eBay Sip Phone Scam.
>
>Josh,
>
>Pls can you confirm that URL, www.chagres.com doesn't seem to mention 
>the sale of any Grandstream phones ....
>
>Adam
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Josh Roberson
>To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
>Sent: 02/10/03 13:04
>Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] eBay Sip Phone Scam.
>
>Actually, had you taken the time to READ the auction details, He says 
>(direct copy/paste from auction)
>
>-----Begin Copy/Paste-----
>
>
>Flash Based OS
>
>Easy to install and manage,
>Cost effective,
>Easy to use - Friendly GUI for 1st time user,
>Easy to learn - User's guide and on-line tutorial
>
>Big information and management LCD blue back light
>User friendly keypad 
>Universal AC/DC adapter
>Ergonomic design
> 
> 
>  
> 
>25-button keypad
>12-digit caller ID LCD 
>Universal Switching Power Adaptor 
>Input: 100-240VAC 
>Output: +5VDC, 400mA, 
> 1. Auto-sensing 10/100 Base-TX Ethernet Port
>2.UL/CE/FCC
>3.Power Supply : Universal 90 ~ 264V
>  
>
>Support all major Network Operating Systems (Windows, MAC, Linux/Unix)
>
>Web-Based Management
>
>TCP/IP Configuration with DHCP support
>
>Free Flash Firmware update
>
>No User Licenses
>
>System Restart/ Shutdown
>
>Password Access control
>
>1 x 10/100Mbps Ethernet Port (RJ-45 Interface)
>
>Support STUN and SIMPLE extension
>
>Interoperable with 3d parties Proxy, Registrar and gateway products
>
> 
>
> 
> DSP technology for the best voice quality
>
>Support popular vocoders including G.723.1 (5.3K/6.3K), G.729A/B, G.711 
>(alaw and u-law), G.726 (40K/32K/24K/16K), as well as G.728 (Model 
>102D)
>
>In and out-off-band DTMF
>
>Support 3-way conferencing (Model 102D), full duplex hands-free 
>speakerphone, redial, call log, volume control, voice mail with 
>indicator
>
>Support for Layer 2 (802.1Q VLAN, 802.1p) and Layer 3 QoS (ToS, 
>DiffServ, MPLS)
>
>Remote software upgrade capability via TFTP
>
>Support Silence Suppression, VAD (Voice Activity Detection), CNG 
>(Comfort Noise Generation), Line Echo Cancellation (G.168), and AGC 
>(Automatic Gain
>Control)
>
>-----End Copy/Paste-----
>
>Nowhere does he make the claims you're stating.  He DOES, have (Model
>102D) in one of the descriptions, but that is a direct quote from 
>Grandstream's product brochure.
>
>Also, this phone *IS* out on the market.. I own one, and I'm quite 
>happy with it.. I will tell you this though:
>
>Go order one from Chagres (http://www.chagres.com).   They are an
>asterisk supporter/user on this list, and the price is MUCH better. ;)
>
></rant>
>
>--------------------------
>Josh Roberson
>Indigent Networks
>1.877.677.9647 x1
>twisted at indigent.sytes.net
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: asterisk-users-admin at lists.digium.com
>[mailto:asterisk-users-admin at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of costas
>Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 4:50 AM
>To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
>Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] eBay Sip Phone Scam.
>
>I did shop around. Nowhere does he say the phone is the 101. If you 
>look at his ad he says the phone has 102D features and has 16x2 lines 
>and 3 way conference. The starting price was $90. A reasonable opening 
>price I thought. He also does not say the phone is not available until 
>end of year.
>
>I only called Grandstream to find out some info on it after I placed 
>the Bid. In a way Grandstream is also at fault. Nowhere do they say the 
>phone is not available. I was suprised when they told me it wasnt even 
>out.  When I sent a message to this thief, he said its for the 101 and 
>they are hard to get. Thats why he jacked up the price. He did cancel 
>my bid after telling me what a bad person I am for wasting his time.
>
>
>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>From: Andrew Kohlsmith <akohlsmith-asterisk at benshaw.com>
>Reply-To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
>Date:  Wed, 1 Oct 2003 23:32:51 -0400
>
>>> Some guy on eBay is trying to sell the Grandstream Budgetone Phone
>101 as
>>> the 102D. And to make matters worse he starts the bid at $90.00
>Beware.
>>
>>There's no need to beware -- anyone who doesn't shop around deserves 
>>to
>get
>>suckered.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Andrew
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