[Asterisk-Users] FAQ, Documentation, How-to, etc

[wasim at convergence.com.pk]

On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Rich Adamson wrote:

> their first names do not start with Mark either (Everyone, please note Mark's
> political absence from this somewhat "hot" topic; excellent posture.)

simple because he's got much better things to do with his time ...

> post from those same arrogant <people>, I'm tempted to build an army <of you 
> know what> and see how well their business and customers stand up to the DS3 
> <pressure>. (For the arrogant few, substitute the best-known very-well-
> understood words that you can come up with in between <>. It shouldn't 
> take more then a couple of Crayons to color between the lines.)

what an immature "script-kiddy" response, those "arrogant few" are
probably those "few" who contribute meaningful code to the project, hurt
them and you hurt us all, the community and * ... it'd be a bad move

> A minimum of ten years of Internet history has already proven that sharing
> information is a very positive thing. Yet, on "this" list and with this product,
> the overwhelming objective by those that have a clue is to _not_ share the
> intricacies of how to accomplish basic telephony functions. Most of us do
> understand why a couple of cookie-Krums (intended) are scattered around though!!!

sharing information, means putting information out, it does not mean 
taking every new kid on the block through a paid, hand-fed education, 

how much effort is there to open google, THERE IS TONS of documentation on
* now, READ and understand, its simple, hundreds if not thousands have
done this before, so can you ...

> There has been several attempts by _many_ to help document the product, but 
> even _that_ effort has been consistently undermined by a select _few_. 

not at all, i think the voip-info guy is doing a great job, and this all
start with tilghman's code snippits amongst other back when you REALLY
couldn't find documentation, other than what was on asterisk.org now the
list of available docs, codes, snippits, examples is long and getting
better week by week, not to mention discussed in infinite detail on the 
ML(s)

> Until knowledge and experiences are shared <openly>, the product will likely 
> remain in its present state. (Sorry Mark!)

great, the product rocks currently, and will only improve, regardless of 
your DOOMSDAY prediction

> For those that have actually read this far, please express your honest opinion
> as they're truly are some people lurking that want to learn and can impact 
> the negativity that is so common on this list.
> 
> For those that are new to the list and don't understand the frustration, please
> disregard.

No, don't disregard, learn, you're being told for your own benefit, learn 
to help your self, learn to google, learn to READ, and then ASK ... i'd 
much rather have the "Arrogant Few" putting out more code and features 
rather than answering mails on "how do i dial out?"

- wasim