[Asterisk-Users] IPv4...NAT...etc

[Jon Pounder]

At 05:45 PM 3/5/2003 -0600, you wrote:
>http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2003-March/008088.html
>"why is there such a delay in getting ipv6 rolled out when it solves all 
>these problems ?"
>===
>There are many reasons...
>1. Leasing Address Space from the I* society (small s...aka the Big Lie 
>Society) is not desirable by all people...

where do you think ip4 space comes from ?

>2. The IPv6 Privacy Problem...that is especially important in the area of 
>computer telephony...

what privacy ? Do you mean to say you think having a static address is 
wrong since others will be able to identify you ? Isn't this the same 
concept of not accepting blocked calls in the telephony world ? If you need 
to hide, then most people will make the decision not to talk to you.

>3. There is no shortage of IPv4 Address Space [1]

if there is not a shortage then why doesn't everyone have all the static 
ips they want ?

>4. The 160 bits in the IPv4 Header can easily be used to store up to 43 
>bits of addressing (4+7=11+32=43)

not sure what you are proving with this calculation

>5. The AM/FM InterNAT bit in the IPv4 Header can also be used to 
>differentiate Next Generation higher-quality services...

this has nothing to do with the number of available addresses, only what 
services run on them. You could use it to route to a different machine if 
you wanted, but that is not really the point of this thread.


>...Asterisk is a natural extension of the NAT transition/evolution and 
>helps to negate any need for IPv6...

I think all the extra layered on crap for NAT and the hacks to make a few 
static ips last longer in a world that needs a larger address space is just 
needlessly complicating the application layers of software when clearly the 
transport and internetworking layers are sadly out of date.




>Jim Fleming
>http://IPv8.no-ip.com
>
>
>[1]==========================================================
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "John L Crain" <crain at iana.org>
>To: <sanog at sanog.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 5:00 PM
>Subject: IPv4 Addresses update
>
>
> >
> > Dear Colleagues,
> >
> > As  you may be aware the Regional Internet Registries have been active
> > with  the "Early Registrations Transfer [ERX] Project". As part of the
> > preliminary  investigations  of  this  project and verification of the
> > data  by  the  IANA some /8s previously listed as "Various Registries"
> > have  now  been designated as unused and as such will be listed in the
> > IANA registries as "IANA Reserved".
> >
> > This update will take effect at
> >
> > http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space
> >
> > as of 23:59 UTC, 31 March 2003.
> >
> >
> > The affected /8s will be listed as follows:
> >
> > 173/8   Apr 03   IANA - Reserved
> > 174/8   Apr 03   IANA - Reserved
> > 175/8   Apr 03   IANA - Reserved
> > 176/8   Apr 03   IANA - Reserved
> > 177/8   Apr 03   IANA - Reserved
> > 178/8   Apr 03   IANA - Reserved
> > 179/8   Apr 03   IANA - Reserved
> > 180/8   Apr 03   IANA - Reserved
> > 181/8   Apr 03   IANA - Reserved
> > 182/8   Apr 03   IANA - Reserved
> > 183/8   Apr 03   IANA - Reserved
> > 184/8   Apr 03   IANA - Reserved
> > 185/8   Apr 03   IANA - Reserved
> > 186/8   Apr 03   IANA - Reserved
> > 187/8   Apr 03   IANA - Reserved
> > 189/8   Apr 03   IANA - Reserved
> > 190/8   Apr 03   IANA - Reserved
> >
> > Comments can be sent to iana at iana.org.
> >
> > --
> > Best regards,
> >  John L. Crain                        mailto:crain at iana.org
> >
> >
> >
>
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