[Asterisk-Users] Another PRI based question

Sun Jun 8 05:56:30 MST 2003

You hit the nail on the head in saying the tariffs in this area are 
whacked.  A block of 20 DID numbers increases the cost of the PRI about 
$220 a month and that is with the configuration of 12 inbound and 11 
outbound.  If you want the configuration otherwise or more DID numbers it 
costs even more.  The area I service is Maryland and Delaware both the 
states are crazy when it comes to telco issues.  In Maryland the install 
costs are more, monthly charges being less and just the opposite in 
Delaware. I can be on 2 different job sites less than 5 minutes apart, 
separated by state lines only and the difference in the PRI monthly cost 
is $200.  If this is not crazy I don't know what is. The rep in this case 
seems reasonably well informed.  With that being the case, he was trying 
to be mindful in giving us a cheaper option that did relatively the same 
thing. As a matter of fact, he said he suggests this to most of his 
customers versus DID numbers.  Consider the odds of that, a Verizon rep 
trying to help or save the customer some money! :)
AJ

On Sat, 7 Jun 2003, Steven Critchfield wrote:

> On Sat, 2003-06-07 at 21:04, firedude at shorelinuxsolutions.com wrote:
> > Well I would have went with DIDs however it really increases the pricing 
> > of their plan plus we then have to split the channels up as incoming and 
> > outgoing.  It gets pretty complicated.  They already deliver 10 digits in 
> > from what I understand.  I will inquire from them whether or not I can set 
> > my outbound callerid.  Would that be setting the name or the number or 
> > both?  Also its kind of too late to switch now because I have a time frame 
> > in which to have the project complete and getting PRIs in is not a quick 
> > process even from Verizon.  So it is sure to be more difficult from one of 
> > the Clec's.  Thanks
> 
> I wasn't suggesting a different CLEC, just a different rep to deal with.
> It seems either the tariffs in your area are whacked, or you may be
> getting ripped. 
> 
> For our latest PRI install we went with Telcove, formerly Adelphia. A 20
> block of DIDs costs $4 for our DIDs. We didn't have to split our lines
> between incoming and outgoing. This is the point of PRI, all the
> signalling goes on out of band to negotiate the channels. Even when we
> had E&M lines from MCI, we had our DIDs and no splitting of the
> functions. 
> 
> These are reasons why you either need them to explain why you are being
> told this, or ask for a new rep that is more experienced. Or possibly
> see if you can't schedule a meeting with a switch tech that is used to
> actually configing the switch.
> 
> > On Sat, 7 Jun 2003, Steven Critchfield wrote:
> > 
> > > On Sat, 2003-06-07 at 19:19, firedude at shorelinuxsolutions.com wrote:
> > > > In speaking to the representative at Verizon, we came to the conclusion 
> > > > that DID numbers were not the correct solution; however we were told by 
> > > > Verizon that they could do something called assign individual numbers to 
> > > > the PRI.  What this would in effect do is give us an additional phone 
> > > > number that we would like to route to a specific extension; however unlike 
> > > > the DID number, it would not be assigned to a specific channel.  It would 
> > > > hunt for an available channel.  What we would like to be able to do is 
> > > > that even though it doesn't come in on a specific channel, still be able 
> > > > to route it directly to a specific extension.  The representative at 
> > > > Verizon said that we should be able to do this by having the PBX recognize 
> > > > the digits that come in on the line and route it to the specific extension 
> > > > accordingly.  Is there a way to do this in asterisk?  Thanks again.
> > > > AJ
> > > 
> > > It may be time to ask for a new person to work with. You want DID
> > > numbers. You want the DIDs to be delivered as the full length number, 10
> > > digits. This lets you put all your incoming calls into a simple context
> > > where you define extensions that direct the incoming phone number to a
> > > specific function or internal extension.
> > > 
> > > While them delivering 10 digits may be overkill for DID, it allows you
> > > to get DID numbers from different exchanges without any problems. 
> > > 
> > > Also you may want to make sure they let you set your callerid number on
> > > outbound calls. It is helpfull for my setup since my office phones
> > > present the main number for the office. The last DID we have is what I
> > > use for my home phone, and it presents the last DIDs number so no one
> > > sees my office line as my callerid anymore.
> > > 
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