[Asterisk-Users] OT: list format vs newsgroup format

[James Taylor]

I thought this list thing died this morning.

I'm a guest on this list so I'll take it any way the powers deliver it.

Although I do prefer phpbb.

And, I suppose that anyone who wants to host a phpbb could.  I don't have the time right now.  It's enough just to keep up with these emails.

Bandwidth?  Steven, you must be Digium's Comptroller (or own stock in the company).  This is your second post about their bandwidth conservation in two days.  Bandwidth is cheap.

They wouldn't maintain this list if it didn't generate hardware sales (unless this whole thing is just a hobby).







---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Matthew Hardeman" <mhast at papersoft.com>
Reply-To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 12:33:04 -0500

>Hey there!
>
>Actually, yes, I do take 80 mg. Adderall XR daily, but I hardly think
>that's relevant to this thread or for that matter this mailing list.
>
>Windows on the desktop is *still* a reality...  There are some things I
>just have to have it for...  As such, here at my desk at work, I have
>this laptop running Windows...  Shame on me.  I do have quite a few
>linux systems, though.
>
>Like many others here, I understand the thread-view features of outlook
>and other mail readers...  I consider them all a nasty kludge.
>
>Fancy formatting and graphics are optional.  Phpbb is configurable at
>the user level with a number of "skins", including some very simple
>nearly plain-text types that work quite well with text based web
>browsers.
>
>As for the bandwidth issue, servers migrating from a mailing list format
>to a forum format generally experience reductions in used bandwidth as
>not every user will constantly receive all messages.  Users visit the
>site on a timeframe convenient to them, and read only the posts that
>interest them, by thread.  As they are able to quickly reject or ignore
>threads that are irrelevant to them, they spend their time and bandwidth
>reading messages that matter to them.
>
>I didn't mention earlier that most forum software these days has a
>subscriber to forum feature that allows users to receive emails of the
>messages from the forums automatically, if they prefer.
>
>Frankly, I don't think any of the assertions in my prior email were
>terribly absurd, but each is entitled to his own opinion.
>
>Matt Hardeman
>PaperSoft
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: asterisk-users-admin at lists.digium.com
>[mailto:asterisk-users-admin at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Steven
>Critchfield
>Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 12:20 PM
>To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
>Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] OT: list format vs newsgroup format
>
>On Fri, 2003-07-18 at 12:11, Matthew Hardeman wrote:
>> I feel your pain!
>> 
>> I tend to prefer html based forums...  They keep threads well
>organized,
>> cause less overhead on the server, conserve bandwidth, etc...
>
>I understand you are a crack addict by your use of Outlook, and your
>opinion that fancy formating and graphics could be less bandwidth
>intensive than plain text. The only way you use less bandwidth is if you
>have fewer users reading. A mailing list broadcast the message to all
>users, then you can read it over and over again without incurring more
>transport bandwidth with the original server.  
>
>> They also give visual priority to new threads and active threads...
>
>What do you think bold on unread is? Get a threaded mail reader, and
>enjoy.
>
>> On the other hand, to deal with forums, you actually have to go check
>> them...
>
>Yep, reason not to use them on top of the above absurdities you try and
>put forth.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: asterisk-users-admin at lists.digium.com
>> [mailto:asterisk-users-admin at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Chris
>Earle
>> (CBL)
>> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 9:02 AM
>> To: Asterisk-Users at lists.digium.com
>> Subject: [Asterisk-Users] OT: list format vs newsgroup format
>> 
>> Arrrrgh
>> 
>> I hate trying to sift through all these messages and keep track of the
>> various threads going on .........
>> 
>> Who else on here prefers the newsgroup/threaded approach?  If you
>> haven't
>> already, check out news.gmane.org for mailing lists turned into
>> newsgroups
>> readable by news readers.......
>> 
>> 
>> only problem being that this list requires list membership before
>> posting............<Shrug>
>> 
>> 
>> C  h  r  i  s    E  a  r  l  e
>> System Solutions Specialist
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>Steven Critchfield  <critch at basesys.com>
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