[Asterisk-Users] OT: list format vs newsgroup format

[Matthew Hardeman]

Hey there!

Actually, yes, I do take 80 mg. Adderall XR daily, but I hardly think
that's relevant to this thread or for that matter this mailing list.

Windows on the desktop is *still* a reality...  There are some things I
just have to have it for...  As such, here at my desk at work, I have
this laptop running Windows...  Shame on me.  I do have quite a few
linux systems, though.

Like many others here, I understand the thread-view features of outlook
and other mail readers...  I consider them all a nasty kludge.

Fancy formatting and graphics are optional.  Phpbb is configurable at
the user level with a number of "skins", including some very simple
nearly plain-text types that work quite well with text based web
browsers.

As for the bandwidth issue, servers migrating from a mailing list format
to a forum format generally experience reductions in used bandwidth as
not every user will constantly receive all messages.  Users visit the
site on a timeframe convenient to them, and read only the posts that
interest them, by thread.  As they are able to quickly reject or ignore
threads that are irrelevant to them, they spend their time and bandwidth
reading messages that matter to them.

I didn't mention earlier that most forum software these days has a
subscriber to forum feature that allows users to receive emails of the
messages from the forums automatically, if they prefer.

Frankly, I don't think any of the assertions in my prior email were
terribly absurd, but each is entitled to his own opinion.

Matt Hardeman
PaperSoft



-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-users-admin at lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-admin at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Steven
Critchfield
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 12:20 PM
To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] OT: list format vs newsgroup format

On Fri, 2003-07-18 at 12:11, Matthew Hardeman wrote:
> I feel your pain!
> 
> I tend to prefer html based forums...  They keep threads well
organized,
> cause less overhead on the server, conserve bandwidth, etc...

I understand you are a crack addict by your use of Outlook, and your
opinion that fancy formating and graphics could be less bandwidth
intensive than plain text. The only way you use less bandwidth is if you
have fewer users reading. A mailing list broadcast the message to all
users, then you can read it over and over again without incurring more
transport bandwidth with the original server.  

> They also give visual priority to new threads and active threads...

What do you think bold on unread is? Get a threaded mail reader, and
enjoy.

> On the other hand, to deal with forums, you actually have to go check
> them...

Yep, reason not to use them on top of the above absurdities you try and
put forth.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: asterisk-users-admin at lists.digium.com
> [mailto:asterisk-users-admin at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Chris
Earle
> (CBL)
> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 9:02 AM
> To: Asterisk-Users at lists.digium.com
> Subject: [Asterisk-Users] OT: list format vs newsgroup format
> 
> Arrrrgh
> 
> I hate trying to sift through all these messages and keep track of the
> various threads going on .........
> 
> Who else on here prefers the newsgroup/threaded approach?  If you
> haven't
> already, check out news.gmane.org for mailing lists turned into
> newsgroups
> readable by news readers.......
> 
> 
> only problem being that this list requires list membership before
> posting............<Shrug>
> 
> 
> C  h  r  i  s    E  a  r  l  e
> System Solutions Specialist
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