[Asterisk-Users] Asterisk on Cygwin?

[Steven Critchfield]

On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 11:47, jltaylor wrote:
> Thanks for your enthuastic response.
> 
> There's this Linux project out there for 802.11 at:
> www.station-server.com
> They have figured out how to make this type of distribution package
> work.

And there is nothing stopping you from getting a knoppix CD started that
will do the same sort of thing. 

> Don't get me wrong, Asterisk seems to have just about everything from
> a feature standpoint.  The open source concept is one that I support. 
> We run FreeBSD for routers and I love it.
> 
> You are absolutely correct about the need to learn about Linux
> distributions and installers.  Most people don't and some find it too
> difficult (I suppose that they are the ones who should stick to
> Windows?).

I tried my best to not include the windows comments in my post. It
wasn't a route I wanted to go in this argument. But since we are here
anyways, I'm concerned that if it becomes too easy to have a system
connected to the PSTN and the net that we will see people looking this
way for exploits. The difficulty here is that they don't have to exploit
asterisk to get in and set up new accounts and then use asterisk to
route them to the PSTN. The current level of knowledge required to get
started should help weed out the people who helped NIMDA and CODE_RED
along. We all know they exist no matter what OS they use.

> Hardware costs?  I guess these guys that have a hardware cost problem 
> have never priced a Dialogic 240xx/T1 or the quad card. Used single T1
> Dialogic cards are $1100.
> 
> *** The digium hardware offerings are the best price that I've seen
> for any solution. ***

And that is the very reason why my company and myself personally have
bought hardware from Digium. We currently have 4 machines with 320 cards
that seem to go for over $1500 used, and it is only 16 analog FXO ports.

> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: Steven Critchfield <critch at basesys.com>
> Reply-To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
> Date: 16 Jul 2003 09:14:06 -0500
> 
> >On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 09:10, jltaylor wrote:
> >> Is the hassle in running it or setting it up?
> >> 
> >> This gets back to my interest in a CD to boot and install a "basic" system on a hard drive.
> >> 
> >> Something like a 2 line 4 station version and then a single T1, 4 station, 2 line.
> >> 
> >> This is why there is a users list and a developers list.
> >> As a user, I just want a CD with typical config ready to go.
> >> As a developer, I want to play with and tweak everything, including the OS.
> >
> >But there is _NO_ typical config. This is enough of a problem. Plus
> >there is no need to host an ISO of the OS and cost digium money in
> >bandwidth that other people are more than willing to do. The maintaining
> >of a OS ISO is immense and best left to other projects. In fact the only
> >thing really needed is for someone to set up a nightly build and package
> >of asterisk into the couple of different package formats and make it
> >available to the world.
> >
> >> Others are asking for a GUI or web interface.  There's a place for all of this.
> >> 
> >> Look at what's involved in getting started:
> >> You either have to download 600+MB Linux, install, compile, etc. Or
> >> run out and buy a Linux version and install, compile, etc.  Now for
> >> most of us this is not a big problem.  But, just look at the time
> >> envolved in setting up a couple of 266mz boxes to play and test with.
> >
> >See you need to learn about other distros and installers. I know that
> >Mandrake and RH offer network installs, and debian shouldn't be
> >installed any other way. I'm only commenting on debians network install
> >because I know it, but you only download 28 megs of files and then only
> >what you are going to install after that. Total download for an asterisk
> >machine should be under 150 megs.
> >
> >> Put an ISO on the site and watch hardware sales fly...
> >
> >Do you think the ISO will change all these VoIP only users into hardware
> >users? If you listen to the comments from them, it is a cost issue
> >mostly on the hardware, not the software. No amount of software bundling
> >is going to change the budget of a user.
> >
> >> And then watch the "consultants" market grow.  There will be posts
> >> like:  "...well I bought the hardware, installed, it works but I need
> >> xxxyyy, can any one log into my system and program this thing?..."
> >
> >I doubt this. The consultants market will be more of the kind like VCCH
> >is doing which is going out to a site and saying, "We can provide you
> >this, that, and these other things all for a price under that quote you
> >have in your hands now." The difference here is that most users that
> >already found their way here and went ahead with a purchase of hardware
> >will either already know how to do it themselves, or are patient enough
> >to wait till that feature comes forward. Those who need consultants
> >usually will not be the ones we see. 
> >
> >-- 
> >Steven Critchfield  <critch at basesys.com>
> >
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