[asterisk-dev] ARI, Stasis, and Dialplan

Thu Dec 13 15:26:55 CST 2018

Sorry if I was unclear.  Yes, I would love to extend the "Continue"
function to add App and AppArgs as an option to use instead of
Context/Extension/Priority.  "Originate" and "Create" both allow these
already.  Adding these to "Continue" would be very helpful.

On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 2:45 PM Ben Ford <bford at digium.com> wrote:

> To elaborate on this further, would it be fine the way it is currently,
> where you specify a context and extension, or is there any interest in
> being able to alternatively specify an application and arguments to pass to
> it?
>
> On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 12:37 PM Seán C. McCord <ulexus at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Absolutely.  I really forgot about that, because I've just molded my
>> design approach to maintain a single ARI application per node, but that
>> extension to Continue (similar to Originate's App/AppArgs properties),
>> would be enormously helpful.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 11:47 AM Ben Ford <bford at digium.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I think having a context that's created when the application starts
>>> sounds like a solid approach.
>>>
>>> Another thing to consider is how to move from one application to the
>>> next. Any thoughts on the use of /continue to tackle this? Is this
>>> something you'd like to be able to make use of in your applications?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 11:42 PM Anil Gupta <anilgupta83 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> +1 to the context idea
>>>>
>>>> Something like *context = stasis:app_name* would be nice. I presume
>>>> this could be achieved by adding the functionality to the PBX module and
>>>> most (if not all) channel drivers would work without modification.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Anil
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 2:16 AM Dan Jenkins <dan at nimblea.pe> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Oh I do remember the context idea  - which seemed like a good idea at
>>>>> the time because of not having to change much internally
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 7:07 PM Seán C. McCord <ulexus at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Correction: when I said the "latter," I should have said the "third"
>>>>>> option.  The last option does not really work well, since _channels_
>>>>>> map to _contexts_, not CELs.
>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 1:52 PM Seán C. McCord <ulexus at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Neither of my previous emails appear to be showing up.... third
>>>>>> time's
>>>>>> > the charm?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > We had briefly discussed the idea of creating virtual
>>>>>> context/dialplan
>>>>>> > to handle this.  The idea would be that a context and dialplan would
>>>>>> > be internally and automatically generated which would direct calls
>>>>>> > sent to that context directly to ARI.  Since the impetus for this
>>>>>> > feature was operational simplicity, not any kind of optimization of
>>>>>> > Asterisk itself, the idea of a virtual dialplan should work well and
>>>>>> > would seem to not cause much disruption or require much
>>>>>> code-wrangling
>>>>>> > elsewhere.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I see a few ways that this might be implemented (at the user level):
>>>>>> >  - Upon connecting an ARI application, the additional URL parameter
>>>>>> > "context" may be passed, which would create the virtual context and
>>>>>> > pass all calls to that context to the ARI app.
>>>>>> >  - Add an ARI REST API call which creates a virtual context/dialplan
>>>>>> > including, optionally, ARI parameters to be included with that call.
>>>>>> >  - Define an automatic naming scheme for virtual dialplans
>>>>>> associated
>>>>>> > with ARI applications and have them generated automatically when an
>>>>>> > ARI application connects.  For instance, the ARI application named
>>>>>> > 'HOWDY' may have an automatically-generated context named
>>>>>> > 'ari_autocontext_HOWDY'.
>>>>>> >  - Define a single context (say, 'ari_auto') whose _extensions_ map
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> > the names of ARI applications.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I am partial to the latter, since it seems to be the simplest, but
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> > second has merit, too, since it allows any number of associations
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> > additional execution parameters to be set.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 11:22 AM Ben Ford <bford at digium.com> wrote:
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > Hey all,
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > We’re looking into AstriCon feedback and one of the things we
>>>>>> want to touch on is ARI --  specifically, the ability to not have to create
>>>>>> an extensions.conf in order to dial into Stasis. Before we start working on
>>>>>> this, we’d like some direction from the community on what people would be
>>>>>> looking for. From a user perspective, how would you expect something like
>>>>>> this to work? Where would you look for information on how to do this, or
>>>>>> where it would be configured? Any feedback is welcome!
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > Ben
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > >
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>>>>>> > ulexus at gmail.com
>>>>>> > CyCore Systems
>>>>>>
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