[Asterisk-Dev] G729 in non-realtime mode - way forward for Asterisk?

[Dorn Hetzel]

Whoops, make that 1,440 minutes :)   where did that extra zero sneak in :)

On Mon, Oct 25, 2004 at 12:48:44PM -0400, Dorn Hetzel wrote:
> 
> A "batch" to/from G.729 converter offered as a "service" available over
> the internet could, in theory, convert 14,400 minutes of audio per day,
> with a single channel at realtime.  If operating in batch mode on a 
> sufficiently fast system, could it operate faster than realtime per
> channel?  It seems like a server somewhere on the net with a relatively
> modest number of licenses could provide an awful lot of conversion
> capability for batch users.  Voicemail originally left in G.729 could
> be shipped to this server for conversion to some other format, and so
> on in the reverse...
> 
> Would this make any sense at all?
> 
> -Dorn
> 
> On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 12:21:19AM +0900, Benjamin on Asterisk Mailing Lists wrote:
> > On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:10:19 +0300, joachim <zoachien at securax.org> wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > With the time spent on this thread, i think you could all have bought some
> > > licenses. (& The development cost to create something to convert those
> > > messages will buy you some more).
> > 
> > If it was only for myself, I wouldn't even bother with G729. I am very
> > happy with ILBC, thank you very much. For our own purposes, G729 is
> > totally and utterly obsolete.
> > 
> > Howver, I have customers who would like to know how to work around the
> > considerable cost of G729 licensing when used for anything other than
> > a hobby or SOHO system where a G729 caller leaving a voice message
> > will probably only happen once or twice before the patents expire.
> > 
> > > I don't think 10$ a license is that much, and you could do all your prompts
> > > with that too.
> > 
> > I have already stated this at least twice before, so let me make this
> > very clear one more time:
> > 
> > Nobody cares about prompts.
> > 
> > > Its not 10$ a call, its 10$ / license.
> > 
> > No, it's 15.000 USD initial contract fee just for the privilege to be
> > able to purchase licenses and then it is 63.000 USD for the minimum
> > package of 50.000 channels (for Annex A and B). Further a contract
> > renewal fee of 7.500 USD every year.
> > 
> > Digium doesn't sell any G729 binaries for BSD, none for LinuxPPC, none
> > for Darwin and none for Solaris. Even going with the x86 platform, it
> > is 10$ per channel and if you run a redundant voicemail server where
> > you want to have -say- 50 concurrent voicemail channels capacity, then
> > that will cost you 2x50x10$ = 1000 USD for only 50 people being able
> > to leave voicemail just to cater for the possibility that they all
> > come in using G729. And of top of that, the licensing means extra
> > hassle, extra work, limitations managing your systems. All that extra
> > nonsense that you wouldn't need if it wasn't for the side effects of
> > the license management will cost the customer who wants to deploy such
> > a system several times more than the actual license fees. I know
> > because I had a few projects where we have run the numbers and in the
> > end the customer opted out of G729 altogether, which is what I always
> > recommend anyway.
> > 
> > However, if a batch conversion system or a batch conversion service
> > could be set up, such customers would have a reasonable and affordable
> > option to support G729 on their voicemail systems.
> > 
> > Besides, efforts to work around software patents is something we will
> > have to get used to if the open source movement is to have a future.
> > So, the exercise alone is well worth the effort.
> > 
> > rgds
> > benjk
> > 
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