[Asterisk-Dev] Asterisk Credits and Fair use. Mark Pls Respond.
Dr. Rich Muprhey
Rich at WhiteOakLabs.com
Thu Oct 7 10:11:01 MST 2004
I'm not sure the facts support what you are saying. There is evidence
that specific issues are resolved without hesitation.
You haven't raised a single instance that could possibly be addressed.
Either get the facts straight or stop wasting everyone's time.
Rich
dking at pimpsoft.com wrote:
> Why is it that ever time I turn around, no ones name is on anything
> but Marks, EVEN if I know for a fact he did not do the work in
> question?
>
> Why does it look like to me that Mark simply takes credit for work he
> did not do, taking others names off there work?
>
> Why is it I know for a fact that several things in asterisk are not
> done by mark, but have his name on it?
>
> This way of doing things is not true open source idealistic. Taking
> someones name off of something to put your own name on it is
> unethical and immoral. It also can be seen as illegal.
>
> Large open source software projects usually have a credits file
> listing everyone who helped out. Instead asterisk source code all has
> 'copyright Mark Spencer' and the only names in the 'credits' files
> are little adds for companies that helped Mark get it off the ground
> and members of the 'inner circle'.
>
> What about the rest of us? What about the community that did the
> work?
>
> So I am asking digum/Mark/whoever: So why is it happening? Why has it
> been allowed?
>
> I'm not asking for a long multi threaded discussion where everybody
> gets pissed off and angry at the whistle-blower (me). I just want to
> know why Mark you say you are a part of the open source community,
> yet you disrespect it and every single person who has helped with
> your actions by plagiarizing or in the minds of some of the people I
> have talked to, stolen, work.
>
> Hell you have added work by ME without giving credits, and I have
> talked to many others, some who even had code added without having to
> sign disclaimers (and that's a interesting topic for later) who all
> say the same thing. They feel that Mark simply takes credit for
> everyone else's work, and doesn't even credit the people who do the
> work.
>
> So I want to know why Mark. I'm not calling you out. I'm not blaming
> you for something other people I have told me you did. I'm not asking
> about the code you have included in asterisk without having signed
> disclaimers. I'm not asking about code you have included in asterisk
> that may be the ownership of other people.
>
> I AM asking why you have done this, and why code I know either to
> have been done by others or myself is written off as your work. I AM
> asking why you do not count the numerous other people who have
> submitted patches or helped in the development of asterisk in the
> credits file. I AM asking you why you say in most if not all the
> files you say ‘copyright Mark Spencer’ when so many others including
> myself have put valuable time and effort into them. I am asking you
> why you have taken out names from credits in source code in what
> looks to me like so the true ownership to them is not traceable.
>
> So instead of calling you out, I'm asking you WHY.
>
> - D
>
>
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