32 channels is doable with g729 annex (dont remember) 6.4 kbit and multiplexing.<div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 11:04 PM, Stelios Koroneos <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:skoroneos@digital-opsis.com" target="_blank">skoroneos@digital-opsis.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On Mon, 2012-07-16 at 11:11 +0200, Martin Vit wrote:<br>
> The short answer is no you can't get 32 *concurrent* channels<br>
> on a<br>
> 250kbps uplink<br>
><br>
> With G729 as a codec you need around 32kbits per channel<br>
> including the<br>
> overheads from the voip protocol and tcp etc, so that would<br>
> give you<br>
> around 7 *concurrent* channels.<br>
><br>
><br>
> You are slightly wrong - G729 is 8kbit stream and the UDP overhead for<br>
> 20ms packetization is alltogether 25Kbit stream. In theory you can do<br>
> 30 channels over 250 kbit with IAX2 trunking feature which puts all 30<br>
> channels to one big UDP packet which minimizes headers and UDP<br>
> overhead. There is also G729 variant using 6.4kbit stream.<br>
><br>
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The 25kbit is as you said theoretical, the real values i see are close<br>
to 30kbits for a single channel.<br>
<br>
The IAX overhead i have seen during tests is around 20kbits in trunk<br>
mode and then an additional 9.5 to 10kbits per g729 channel you add to<br>
the trunk<br>
So even with that, reaching the 32 channels is not possible and i have<br>
not accounted the fact they want also VPN.<br>
<br>
Had the same issue with a sat link with limited bw so i had to do this<br>
"exercise" before, that's why i speak with some confidence.<br>
<br>
Cisco also offers g729 header compression as they call it which is also<br>
rated at 24kbit per channel, i assume that there must be other multiplex<br>
solutions out there, but given the numbers i still believe the 32<br>
channels on 250kbit is a no-go.<br>
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