<html><body><span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#000000; font-size:10pt;"><div>Hi Andy and Everyone in this Forum,</div>
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<div>Of course Andy we are very Angry. Last Year in total we lost over 30K USD and Asia Telecom and BroadTelephone 3K USD invoice is part of it. This has effect our business process to do much more verification in giving post pay/prepay and it has become almost impossible find out who is geniune and who is not.</div>
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<div>Even though These two companies are registered in UK and USA its managed and owned by Pakistan guys (nothing personal to Pakistanies) so my point is we can not judge a company from where it is registered.</div>
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<div> So I bilieve most effective way to minimize frauds is to keep close contact with trusted partners and their frauds, so you can keep away from frauds.</div>
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<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>Dennis S.</div>
<div>DialOnTel Team </div>
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<div >-------- Original Message --------<BR>Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] India VoIP termination - FRAUD- BE Careful<BR>From: Andy Spring <andyspr@gmail.com><BR>Date: Sun, November 01, 2009 5:15 am<BR>To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion<BR><asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com><BR><BR><img style="MARGIN: 0px 0.2ex; VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle" height=15 src="cid:360@goomoji.gmail" width=12 wbeuser="info@dialontel.com" goomoji="360" mce_style="MARGIN: 0px 0.2ex; VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle" mce_src="cid:360@goomoji.gmail"><img style="MARGIN: 0px 0.2ex; VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle" height=15 src="cid:360@goomoji.gmail" width=12 wbeuser="info@dialontel.com" goomoji="360" mce_style="MARGIN: 0px 0.2ex; VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle" mce_src="cid:360@goomoji.gmail"><img style="MARGIN: 0px 0.2ex; VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle" height=15 src="cid:360@goomoji.gmail" width=12 wbeuser="info@dialontel.com" goomoji="360" mce_style="MARGIN: 0px 0.2ex; VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle" mce_src="cid:360@goomoji.gmail"> Haha... Maybe Dennis is very angry with them, but what make me suprised is that the frauds are from UK and USA, whose reputation are good and they also think themselves come with good reputation, but also rubbish <img style="MARGIN: 0px 0.2ex; VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle" height=15 src="cid:360@goomoji.gmail" width=12 wbeuser="info@dialontel.com" goomoji="360" mce_style="MARGIN: 0px 0.2ex; VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle" mce_src="cid:360@goomoji.gmail"><img style="MARGIN: 0px 0.2ex; VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle" height=15 src="cid:360@goomoji.gmail" width=12 wbeuser="info@dialontel.com" goomoji="360" mce_style="MARGIN: 0px 0.2ex; VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle" mce_src="cid:360@goomoji.gmail"><img style="MARGIN: 0px 0.2ex; VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle" height=15 src="cid:360@goomoji.gmail" width=12 wbeuser="info@dialontel.com" goomoji="360" mce_style="MARGIN: 0px 0.2ex; VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle" mce_src="cid:360@goomoji.gmail"><BR><BR>
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<DIV>Hi All,</DIV>
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<DIV>DO NOT sell any minutes to BroadTelepone or AsiaTelecom. They have a pending invoice to us for last 8 months 3000 USD. Our company name is DialOnTel. we were seling India to them. These companies are fraud based in UK and USA. AsiaTelecom UK is currently on liquadation.</DIV>
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<DIV>Sikander - Director, Faruk -Tech guy never response to our calls or emails. </DIV>
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<DIV>DO NOT Give post pay to them.</DIV>
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<DIV>My name is Dennis from DialOnTel.</DIV>
<DIV><A href="mailto:dennis@dialontel.com" target=_blank mce_href="mailto:dennis@dialontel.com">dennis@dialontel.com</A></DIV>
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<DIV>Sikander if you see this email you are most welcome to contact me as you never response to our emials or calls.</DIV>
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<DIV>Thanks,</DIV>
<DIV>DialOnTel Team</DIV>
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<DIV>-------- Original Message --------<BR>Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] India VoIP termination<BR>From: Sikander Saeed <<A href="mailto:sikander@asiatele.net" target=_blank mce_href="mailto:sikander@asiatele.net">sikander@asiatele.net</A>><BR>Date: Fri, October 30, 2009 4:04 pm<BR>To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion<BR><<A href="mailto:asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com" target=_blank mce_href="mailto:asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com">asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com</A>><BR><BR>BroadTelephone is based in USA and involve in wholesale and retail VoIP services in USA, Canada and UK since last decade. We are looking for quality route to India. Our targets are:<BR><BR>India 919 mobile $0.0110<BR>India 9194 $0.0125<BR>India ROC 91 $0.0150<BR>India Cities $0.0130<BR><BR>Our daily traffic is about 25,000 minutes per day. Please let us know if you can provide such service.<BR><BR>Sikander Saeed<BR>BroadTelephone, Inc.<BR><A href="http://www.broadtelephone.com/" target=_blank mce_href="http://www.broadtelephone.com/">www.broadtelephone.com</A><BR><BR><BR>Mitul Limbani wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 8px; MARGIN-LEFT: 8px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid" type="cite" mce_style="PADDING-LEFT: 8px; MARGIN-LEFT: 8px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"><PRE>Brian,
So if I m correct this would be a one of retail customer who needs to
call their indian partner company?
Please email me in a bit more detail off the list, coz we have helped
several US based companies optimize their communication cost to their
indian counter part or indian offshore units.
And I think we can help your customer too.
Thanks & Regards,
Mitul Limbani,
Founder & CEO,
Enterux Solutions Pvt. Ltd.,
The Enterprise Linux Company (r),
<a href="http://www.enterux.com/" target=_blank mce_href="http://www.enterux.com/">http://www.enterux.com</a>
<a href="http://www.entvoice.com/" target=_blank mce_href="http://www.entvoice.com/">http://www.entVoice.com</a>
On 27-Oct-2009, at 7:30 AM, "Brian Franklin" <A href="mailto:bfranklin@ntginc.net" target=_blank mce_href="mailto:bfranklin@ntginc.net"><bfranklin@ntginc.net></A>
wrote:
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<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 8px; MARGIN-LEFT: 8px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid" type="cite" mce_style="PADDING-LEFT: 8px; MARGIN-LEFT: 8px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"><PRE>I have an executive that needs low cost minutes to a partner firm in
India. Clear calls and low cost is the primary concern.
Brian
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From: <A href="mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com" target=_blank mce_href="mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com">asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com</A>
[<a href="mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com" target=_blank mce_href="mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com">mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com</a>] On Behalf Of mtlvoip
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 8:48 PM
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] USA to India
with what kind of features and in which level of price are your
looking
for?
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From: "Brian Franklin" <A href="mailto:bfranklin@ntginc.net" target=_blank mce_href="mailto:bfranklin@ntginc.net"><bfranklin@ntginc.net></A>
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 9:32 PM
To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion"
<A href="mailto:asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com" target=_blank mce_href="mailto:asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com"><asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com></A>
Subject: [asterisk-biz] USA to India
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<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 8px; MARGIN-LEFT: 8px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid" type="cite" mce_style="PADDING-LEFT: 8px; MARGIN-LEFT: 8px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"><PRE>Looking for quality international SIP termination...particularly to
India.
Any suggestions?
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