Barton, from your unrelated reply it is very obvious that you haven't even read the thread. Go read it first and then give your opinion.<br><br>-- <br>Zeeshan A Zakaria<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Barton Fisher <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bhfisher@icpage.com">bhfisher@icpage.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Zeeshan, give it up - If you don't like the answer, then go ask your questions elsewhere. Don't complain about the the answer. Further, the mail list is not the place to air out your problems with another user - That's what email is for; or even better use the delete button and go on with your life....<br>
<br>
But I'm fairly certain you've burn yourself for any additional help from the list<br>
<br>
My 2 cents,<br>
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Bart<br>
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Zeeshan Zakaria wrote:<br>
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Alex, basically you don't want people to post on this list because it bothers you why people don't know what they are asking for, or what they want what you don't like. As far as I have seen you read posts with the purpose to find something to object on. It has nothing to do with laziness or English. Its only a bad habit of yours. You even have book marked such posts to refer to, which you just did here for Rehan's post. If you have problem with somebody's posting, don't read it. Why are you reading it if you don't like it. The objective of your replies is to make the posters feel bad for asking anything, or maybe you have nothing better to do in life, and have enough spare time to sit, read and object on people's posts. I am sure you must be doing the same on some other mailing lists.<br>
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Next time, just delete my email, I really don't need your responses. Or maybe I should start ending my posts with "Not for Alex Balashov" so you know it is not for you. It is unbelievable that your negative comments on a small two line email asking for a good provider with option for IAX trunk has converted it into a huge thread of useless discussion.<br>
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-- <br>
Zeeshan A Zakaria<br>
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On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Alex Balashov <<a href="mailto:abalashov@evaristesys.com" target="_blank">abalashov@evaristesys.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:abalashov@evaristesys.com" target="_blank">abalashov@evaristesys.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
<br>
Pascal Bruno wrote:<br>
<br>
> But remember the list is international, even myself, english is<br>
not my<br>
> mother language, so some questions will never be as clear as you<br>
would<br>
> expect and yes lazy do people exist, but it would not harm nobody to<br>
> point them to the right direction without teaching them everything<br>
> and making them feel unwelcomed. Also I believe one must be<br>
objective as<br>
> much as you can but at the same time free to give personal opinions<br>
> while clearly saying it is a personal opinion, if not, you may be<br>
> minimizing the novices to explore and experience other stuff by<br>
themself<br>
> and see what works best for them.<br>
<br>
This is a valid argument, and I cannot dispute it.<br>
<br>
Regarding lazyness vs. English, many people will often try to mask<br>
their<br>
lazyness or unwillingness to pose intellectually coherent,<br>
well-thought<br>
out and realistic questions by hiding behind the "English is not my<br>
native language" defense.<br>
<br>
It doesn't work, and the difference is trivial to see. I have<br>
seen far,<br>
far higher-quality questions asked by people whose English skills are<br>
vastly below those of the non-native-English-speaking drive-by posters<br>
on this family of lists. The intent to ask something specific and<br>
cogent can be discerned, and legitimate language barriers are<br>
understandable and can be gotten around.<br>
<br>
I suppose there are some conversations that simply cannot be had<br>
because<br>
the original posters' English limitations are simply<br>
insurmountable, but<br>
I think I've only seen one or two posts like that in my entire time<br>
here, if that. The rest use the fallacious Rehan Defense:<br>
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-- Alex<br>
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