<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>There doesn't appear to be any new law here <<a href="http://amlawdaily.typepad.com/Blockbusterdecision.pdf">http://amlawdaily.typepad.com/Blockbusterdecision.pdf</a>> nor is it particularly Internet specific. Basically, you can't make arbitration provision changes retroactively.</div><div><br></div><br><div><div>On Apr 20, 2009, at 7:51 AM, Dean Collins wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="City"><o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="State"><o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="country-region"><o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place"><div class="Section1"><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: black; ">While not restricted to online websites I’m wondering if some of the people on this list running<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">USA</st1:place></st1:country-region><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>based ITSP’s could be affected by this court case.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: black; ">Regards,</span></font><font color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-family: Arial; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: black; ">Dean Collins<br></span></font><font size="1" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial; color: black; ">Cognation Inc<br></span></font><font color="black"><span style="color: black; "><a href="mailto:dean@cognation.net" title="blocked::mailto:dean@cognation.net mailto:dean@cognation.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; "><font size="2" face="Arial" title="blocked::mailto:dean@cognation.net mailto:dean@cognation.net"><span title="blocked::mailto:dean@cognation.net mailto:dean@cognation.net"><span title="blocked::mailto:dean@cognation.net"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; ">dean@cognation.net</span></span></span></font><span title="blocked::mailto:dean@cognation.net mailto:dean@cognation.net"><span title="blocked::mailto:dean@cognation.net"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial" title="blocked::mailto:dean@cognation.net mailto:dean@cognation.net"><span title="blocked::mailto:dean@cognation.net mailto:dean@cognation.net"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: black; "><br title="blocked::mailto:dean@cognation.net mailto:dean@cognation.net"></span></span></font><font color="black" title="blocked::mailto:dean@cognation.net mailto:dean@cognation.net"><span style="color: black; text-decoration: none; "></span></font></span><font color="black" title="blocked::mailto:dean@cognation.net mailto:dean@cognation.net"></font></span></a></span></font><font size="1" color="black" face="Arial"><u1:dial u1:st="on"><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial; color: black; ">+1-212-203-4357</span></u1:dial> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></font><font size="1" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial; "><ns0:state w:insauthor="Dean Collins" w:insdate="2009-04-20T10:49:00Z" w:endinsauthor="Dean Collins" w:endinsdate="2009-04-20T10:49:00Z"><ns0:place w:insauthor="Dean Collins" w:insdate="2009-04-20T10:49:00Z" w:endinsauthor="Dean Collins" w:endinsdate="2009-04-20T10:49:00Z"><st1:state w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on"><font color="black"><span style="color: black; ">New York</span></font></st1:place></st1:state></ns0:place></ns0:state><font color="black"><span style="color: black; "><br><u1:dial u1:st="on">+61-2-9016-5642</u1:dial> (</span></font></span><font color="black"><u1:city u3:st="on"><u1:place u3:st="on"></u1:place></u1:city></font><ns0:city w:insauthor="Dean Collins" w:insdate="2009-04-20T10:49:00Z" w:endinsauthor="Dean Collins" w:endinsdate="2009-04-20T10:49:00Z"><ns0:place w:insauthor="Dean Collins" w:insdate="2009-04-20T10:49:00Z" w:endinsauthor="Dean Collins" w:endinsdate="2009-04-20T10:49:00Z"><ns0:city w:insauthor="Dean Collins" w:insdate="2009-04-20T10:49:00Z" w:endinsauthor="Dean Collins" w:endinsdate="2009-04-20T10:49:00Z"><ns0:place w:insauthor="Dean Collins" w:insdate="2009-04-20T10:49:00Z" w:endinsauthor="Dean Collins" w:endinsdate="2009-04-20T10:49:00Z"><st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on"><font color="black"><span style="color: black; ">Sydney</span></font></st1:place></st1:city></ns0:place></ns0:city></ns0:place></ns0:city><font color="black"><span style="color: black; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>in-dial).<br>+44-20-3129-6001 (</span></font><ns0:city w:insauthor="Dean Collins" w:insdate="2009-04-20T10:49:00Z" w:endinsauthor="Dean Collins" w:endinsdate="2009-04-20T10:49:00Z"><ns0:place w:insauthor="Dean Collins" w:insdate="2009-04-20T10:49:00Z" w:endinsauthor="Dean Collins" w:endinsdate="2009-04-20T10:49:00Z"><st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on"><font color="black"><span style="color: black; ">London</span></font></st1:place></st1:city></ns0:place></ns0:city><font color="black"><span style="color: black; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>in-dial).</span></font></font><font face="Arial"><span style="font-family: Arial; "><o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align: center; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "><hr size="2" width="100%" align="center" tabindex="-1"></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; font-weight: bold; ">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Dean Collins<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Sent:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, April 20, 2009 10:45 AM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Subject:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>"illusory" terms of service</span></font><o:p></o:p></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: black; ">First posted at: <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></font><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; "><a href="http://deancollinsblog.blogspot.com/2009/04/illusory-terms-of-service.html" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://deancollinsblog.blogspot.com/2009/04/illusory-terms-of-service.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><h3 style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><b><font size="4" color="#cccccc" face="Trebuchet MS"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'; color: rgb(204, 204, 204); "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></b></h3><h3 style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><b><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: black; font-weight: normal; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></b></h3><h3 style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><b><font size="4" color="#cccccc" face="Trebuchet MS"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'; color: rgb(204, 204, 204); "><a href="http://deancollinsblog.blogspot.com/2009/04/illusory-terms-of-service.html" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">"Illusory" terms of service</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></b></h3><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black; ">Wow I’m not sure how many people caught this or understood the ramifications of it.<br searchindex="47" mk_i="47" inner=""><br searchindex="48" mk_i="48" inner="">I’m trying to do some additional research to find out what this means but this ruling at<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></font><font color="blue"><span style="color: blue; "><a href="http://www.mediapost.com/publications/?fa=Articles.showArticle&art_aid=104357" searchindex="50" mk_i="50" inner="MediaPostcom" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">MediaPost.com</a></span></font><font color="black"><span style="color: black; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>this morning caught my eye.<br searchindex="53" mk_i="53" inner=""><br searchindex="54" mk_i="54" inner=""><br searchindex="55" mk_i="55" inner=""></span></font><st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on"><em searchindex="56" mk_i="56" inner="LynndeterminedthatBlockbusterscontractwithuserswasillusorybecausetheagreementsaidthatmovierentalstorecouldchangethetermsandconditionsatanytimeABlockbusterspokespersondeclinedtocommentonthecaseorstatewhetherthecompanywillappeal"><span searchindex="57" mk_i="57" inner="LynndeterminedthatBlockbusterscontractwithuserswasillusorybecausetheagreementsaidthatmovierentalstorecouldchangethetermsandconditionsatanytimeABlockbusterspokespersondeclinedtocommentonthecaseorstatewhetherthecompanywillappeal"><i><font size="2" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; ">Lynn</span></font></i></span></em></st1:place></st1:city><em><i><font size="2" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>determined that Blockbuster's contract with users was "illusory" because the agreement said that movie rental store could change the terms and conditions at any time.</span></font></i></em><i><font size="2" color="black"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-style: italic; "><br searchindex="59" mk_i="59" inner=""><em><i><font face="Times New Roman">A Blockbuster spokesperson declined to comment on the case or state whether the company will appeal.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></font></i></em></span></font></i><font color="black"><span style="color: black; "><br searchindex="61" mk_i="61" inner=""><br searchindex="62" mk_i="62" inner=""></span></font><em searchindex="63" mk_i="63" inner="ThedecisionisablowtoBlockbusterbecauseindividualconsumerswouldhavehadadifficulttimebringingcasesonebyoneagainstthecompanyButthedecisionpavesthewayforattorneystoarguethatallconsumersaffectedbyBlockbustersparticipationinBeaconshouldbeabletoproceedasaclass"><span searchindex="64" mk_i="64" inner="ThedecisionisablowtoBlockbusterbecauseindividualconsumerswouldhavehadadifficulttimebringingcasesonebyoneagainstthecompanyButthedecisionpavesthewayforattorneystoarguethatallconsumersaffectedbyBlockbustersparticipationinBeaconshouldbeabletoproceedasaclass"><i><font size="2" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; ">The decision is a blow to Blockbuster because individual consumers would have had a difficult time bringing cases one-by-one against the company. But the decision paves the way for attorneys to argue that all consumers affected by Blockbuster's participation in Beacon should be able to proceed as a class.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></font></i></span><i><font size="2" color="black" face="Times New Roman"></font></i></em><font color="black"><span style="color: black; "><br searchindex="66" mk_i="66" inner=""><br searchindex="67" mk_i="67" inner=""></span></font><em searchindex="68" mk_i="68" inner="InternetlawexpertVenkatBalasubramanisaidLynnsdecisioninvalidatingBlockbustersuseragreementwaspotentiallyfarreachingbecausemanyWebcompaniesreservetherighttomakechangestotheirtermsofserviceItseemsbroadandcouldhaveimpactonthetermsofserviceusedbyalotofdifferentcompanieshesaid"><span searchindex="69" mk_i="69" inner="InternetlawexpertVenkatBalasubramanisaidLynnsdecisioninvalidatingBlockbustersuseragreementwaspotentiallyfarreachingbecausemanyWebcompaniesreservetherighttomakechangestotheirtermsofserviceItseemsbroadandcouldhaveimpactonthetermsofserviceusedbyalotofdifferentcompanieshesaid"><i><font size="2" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; ">Internet law expert Venkat Balasubramani said<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Lynn</st1:place></st1:city>'s decision invalidating Blockbuster's user agreement was potentially far-reaching because many Web companies reserve the right to make changes to their terms of service. "It seems broad and could have impact on the terms of service used by a lot of different companies," he said.</span></font></i></span></em><i><font size="2" color="black"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-style: italic; "><br searchindex="71" mk_i="71" inner=""></span></font></i><font color="black"><span style="color: black; "></span><br searchindex="72" mk_i="72" inner=""><br searchindex="73" mk_i="73" inner="">I’m fairly sure this has to be appealed as couldn’t this throw a lot of User Agreements out the window? (I know it would affect my agreement at<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></font><font color="blue"><span style="color: blue; "><a href="http://www.livebaseballchat.com/" searchindex="75" mk_i="75" inner="wwwLiveBaseballChatcom" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">www.LiveBaseballChat.com</a></span></font><font color="black"><span style="color: black; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>out the window).<br searchindex="78" mk_i="78" inner=""><br searchindex="79" mk_i="79" inner="">Any thoughts about how this affects your business? Post below.<br searchindex="81" mk_i="81" inner=""><br searchindex="82" mk_i="82" inner=""><br><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: black; ">Regards,</span></font><font color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-family: Arial; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: black; ">Dean Collins<br></span></font><font size="1" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial; color: black; ">Cognation Inc<br></span></font><a href="mailto:dean@cognation.net" title="blocked::mailto:dean@cognation.net mailto:dean@cognation.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; "><font size="2" face="Arial" title="blocked::mailto:dean@cognation.net mailto:dean@cognation.net"><span title="blocked::mailto:dean@cognation.net mailto:dean@cognation.net"><span title="blocked::mailto:dean@cognation.net"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; ">dean@cognation.net</span></span></span></font><span title="blocked::mailto:dean@cognation.net mailto:dean@cognation.net"><span title="blocked::mailto:dean@cognation.net"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial" title="blocked::mailto:dean@cognation.net mailto:dean@cognation.net"><span title="blocked::mailto:dean@cognation.net mailto:dean@cognation.net"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: black; "><br title="blocked::mailto:dean@cognation.net mailto:dean@cognation.net"></span></span></font><font color="black" title="blocked::mailto:dean@cognation.net mailto:dean@cognation.net"><span style="color: windowtext; text-decoration: none; "></span></font></span><font color="black" title="blocked::mailto:dean@cognation.net mailto:dean@cognation.net"></font></span></a><font size="1" color="black" face="Arial"><u1:dial u1:st="on"><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial; color: black; "></span>+1-212-203-4357</u1:dial> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:state w:st="on">New York</st1:state></st1:place><br><u1:dial u1:st="on">+61-2-9016-5642</u1:dial> (<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:city w:st="on"><u1:city u3:st="on"><u1:place u3:st="on">Sydney</u1:place></u1:city></st1:city></st1:place><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>in-dial).<br>+44-20-3129-6001 (<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:city w:st="on">London</st1:city></st1:place><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>in-dial).</font><font face="Arial"><span style="font-family: Arial; "><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>--Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.api-digital.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.api-digital.com</a>--<br><br>asterisk-biz mailing list<br>To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit:<br> <a href="http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz</a></o:smarttagtype></o:smarttagtype></o:smarttagtype></o:smarttagtype></div></span></blockquote></div><br></body></html>