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Indeed, point taken. And if I were to interpret your statement as a
claim to higher moral or intellectual ground for Israelis, then I would
say this thread is rife with irony.<br>
<br>
But I won't.<br>
<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Bill:
There is a bit of irony in accusing the Israelis of
failing to recognize and understand the thoughts and work of Levinas,
don’t
you think?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; color: windowtext;">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; color: windowtext;">
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com">asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com">mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bill
Michaelson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 07, 2009 8:50 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:alhakeem@ipextelecom.net">alhakeem@ipextelecom.net</a>; Commercial and Business-Oriented
Asterisk
Discussion<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [asterisk-biz] Why so many children have been
killed in
Iraselbomb attack<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Your rejoinder is extremely ironic. I read the
statement "<span lang="EN">I am not the one living in poverty in Gaza"
as a disclaimer of experience, and as such, an implicit statement of
compassion
and a declaration and admission of the writer's inability to fully
appreciate
the depth of the despair. In MY book, this strikes a chord of
compassion
that is more convincing than most platitudes.<br>
<br>
I think the lacking of appreciation for the circumstances of the Other
is at
the core of the entire conflict. It is what enables Israeli
leadership and its supporters to rationalize the brutal effects of
actions such
as the current military incursion. It is what enables the Palestinian
populace to elect leadership that is avowed to the annihilation of its
neighboring state.<br>
<br>
Similarly - and even worse - the inability or unwillingness to just
understand
each others' statements impedes progress toward resolution. </span><br>
<span lang="EN"><br>
So if you are calling for compassion let it not be shallow or narrow.<br>
<br>
I apologize for cluttering the biz list.<br>
</span><br>
Abdul Hakeem wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span lang="EN">Conscience is the motor that drives any business.
Proclaiming
'I am not the one living in poverty in Gaza' does not strike that cord
of
compassion, at least in my book. One might even be tempted to say I am
not the
guy sitting on the 82nd floor of WTC on 9/11. Let's be compassionate
...guys !
If it can happen to them so it can happen to any one of us. We are just
fortunate not be be born or live in that particular section of the
world.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";"> <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com">asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com</a>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>C. Savinovich<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 07 January 2009 04:47<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [asterisk-biz] Why so many children have been
killed in
Iraselbomb attack</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Andy,
this is an asterisk biz list, you ain’t supposed to
comment on this.. having say that.. here is my answer to you:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left: 22.5pt; text-indent: -0.25in;"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Israelites
don’t know what Obama’s doctrine will be, but their best bet is
that he is really muslim friendly, so they are better off clearing up
as much
as possible before Jan 20. The rocket’s thing, is an excuse.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left: 22.5pt; text-indent: -0.25in;"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Having
said that, the Palestinians really do throw lots and lots of rockets to
innocent civilians in Israel, and they really got to be stopped for
good.
Then again, I am not the one living in poverty in gaza with 2 million
people in
150 square km.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I
Apologize for the deviation, Andy tempted me.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">CS</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";"> <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com">asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Andy Spring<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 06, 2009 11:23 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com">asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [asterisk-biz] Why so many children have been killed
in Irasel
bomb attack</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><br clear="all">
I have seen there are so many Palestine children have been killed in
the
Irasel-Palestine collide from the news, I am so sad about this, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">how do you think of this war created by Irasel
army, I hate
war, hate butcher, why UN discard this war, why Arabia countries do not
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">union to oppose Irasel invasion. Who has been
making the
mistake in this war, Irasel? or Palestine?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">But children have no any mistake.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Could you please kindly your comments?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">-- <br>
andy<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:andyspr@gmail.com">andyspr@gmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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