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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Andy</st1:PlaceName>
<st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Spring</st1:PlaceName></st1:place><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, 27 October 2008 8:53
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Commercial
and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [asterisk-biz] Why so
many international customers ask for freesamples</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Dear Everyone my friends,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Thanks for you so many people talk about my questions, yes, I do sell
hardware like Voip phone, ATA, wifi sip phone, GSM/WIFI phone and so on. About
the sample, we take the policy like that charge sample first, if the customer
like it and when you place bulk order next time, then the sample fee charged
before will be returned to them, if the customer do not like it, when they return
the sample, we will also return their money of sample.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Do you think this way is good for our business.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Also, I have still a further question, many people in US request our
business with credit card, But I do not know whether we can go by credit card
with US customer or some other foreign customer outside China, I mean not the
problem of us and our cusotmer, but the bank of China and the bank of US or any
other country's. Yes, for sure, it can go in local China when both parties are
in China, but if one is in China and one is in US, can we still go on the
business with the credit card, as far as I know, we can only do business with
US or any other outside <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">China</st1:place></st1:country-region>
customers by the payment method of bank transfer or LC or DP, DA. do you have
any other good payment mothed?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>or could you kindly advise whether we can go by credit card, anyone
have this exeperience? thank you very much my friends everyone.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>andy<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>2008/10/28 Steve Totaro <<a
href="mailto:stotaro@totarotechnologies.com">stotaro@totarotechnologies.com</a>><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at
1:58 PM, Trixter aka Bret McDanel<br>
<<a href="mailto:trixter@0xdecafbad.com">trixter@0xdecafbad.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
> On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 13:49 -0400, Steve Totaro wrote:<br>
>> To an extent yes, but he is not selling minutes, he is selling<br>
>> hardware (as far as I know).<br>
>><br>
>> Using the terms "VoIP isn't a single sale" is misleading
since he is<br>
>> selling phones or whatever, which very well may be a single batch<br>
>> sale.<br>
>><br>
><br>
> oh its hardware? that is even more likely to attract people who ask
for<br>
> samples. Its a hardware engineering thing, call up mouser, digikey,
or<br>
> any of the other top 10 global component resellers, call up<br>
> manufacturers such as Ti, they all have a samples department.<br>
> Fortunately for me there was a Mouser right by the college I went to and<br>
> their samples department basically gave me more than enough stuff back<br>
> then to make some neat toys :) So yes it does get abused, but
generally<br>
> its seen as a cost of doing business in such firms.<br>
><br>
> However end user retail goods generally do not get samples the same way,<br>
> for some its like Sun where you try before you buy, basically you clear<br>
> credit and all that, and if you like the system after your term (90 days<br>
> or it used to be) you had to send it back or pay for it. Sure they
run<br>
> the risk of the type of crowd getting the big screen just before hte big<br>
> game and returning it just after, but that is why sun runs credit and<br>
> sees how many systems you can demo this way.<br>
><br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Trixter <a href="http://www.0xdecafbad.com/" target="_blank">http://www.0xdecafbad.com</a>
Bret McDanel<br>
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<st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">US</st1:place></st1:country-region>
+1 516 687 5200<br>
> <a href="http://www.trxtel.com/" target="_blank">http://www.trxtel.com</a>
the phone company that pays you!<br>
><br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I am not too sure how that would work across boarders and in<br>
particular, the <st1:country-region w:st="on">US</st1:country-region> and <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">China</st1:place></st1:country-region> if
someone didn't keep up their end of<br>
the bargain.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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