<div dir="ltr">Issues like? Can you please give an example? Definitely we would like to work around all those issues. <br> <br>-Jai<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Joe Antkowiak <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jantkowiak@netigent.net">jantkowiak@netigent.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">just because you don't deal with the pstn directly, doesn't mean you won't have<br>
issues with the pstn.<br>
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Jai Rangi wrote:<br>
> Trixter,<br>
> Thank you for your comments,<br>
> We are not dealing with PSTN on our side, we are true VoIP.<br>
> Re: Bandwidth, we have upto 100mb. Yes we WILL NOT be doing any media on our<br>
> network which is real bandwidth killer. Re: cpu and and other limits we<br>
> have built our system on horizontal scalable architecture, fully redundant<br>
> and load balanced system, that includes firewall, SIP router, Asterisk<br>
> servers, Database servers etc.<br>
><br>
> During our crash test, my server was sleeping until 2500 channels. So I am<br>
> not really worried upto 5000 channels and from there I can easily expand my<br>
> capacity. Our target is to do the expansion as soon as we reach the 40-50%<br>
> utilization of the resources. For companies who has more that 200 channels<br>
> on each DID I think it will be worth for them to deal directly with Lavel3,<br>
> XO, Quest or Verizon directly.<br>
><br>
> Yes, I agree that every unlimited has a limit in terms of capacity and<br>
> resources and we are not exception. But I am positive that we can be good<br>
> resource for small to mid size businesses.<br>
><br>
> -Jai<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 10:11 AM, Trixter aka Bret McDanel <<br>
> <a href="mailto:trixter@0xdecafbad.com">trixter@0xdecafbad.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> On Thu, 2008-08-14 at 09:47 -0700, Jai Rangi wrote:<br>
>>> All,<br>
>>><br>
>>> I want to take community opinion on this.<br>
>>> Would there be enough interest if I can offer Unlimited channels, non<br>
>>> metered DID at $8-$11 (Depending on the volume commitment) per month.<br>
>>> Target is to sell atleast 10000 DIDs in one to 2 months of time<br>
>>> frame.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Any comment would be appreciated.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Thank you,<br>
>>> -Jai<br>
>>><br>
>> I think people would like it, but there would be some apprehension about<br>
>> it. The pstn carrier has a finite amount of channels available for that<br>
>> exchange. You only have so much bandwidth, even if you never touched<br>
>> the media the provider only has so much bandwidth. Then there is the<br>
>> CDR processing, route processing, etc - cpu resources are finite,<br>
>> although you can add more just like you can add more pstn and inet<br>
>> capacity.<br>
>><br>
>> So would $8-11 cover all of those costs and allow you to really do<br>
>> unlimited service? What if someone ran some application that generated<br>
>> hundreds of thousands of calls? Or even a few that just did hundreds?<br>
>><br>
>> Granted if you did 10k DIDs at $8 that is $80k/mo. And lets say that<br>
>> 10% did above average traffic of say 150 average channels, that is still<br>
>> 15,000 channels that would have to be maintained give or take (I really<br>
>> am just pulling numbers out of thin air). You would certainly be able<br>
>> to afford the cpu and bandwidth costs, which will require more than<br>
>> 1Gbps (I always discount bandwidth both because of atm padding and<br>
>> because you never want it 100%), but the carrier may not be able to<br>
>> handle that channel load, and some of the call centers I have seen<br>
>> traffic on, 150 channels is low, some do thousands at a time, which<br>
>> would skew that slightly (even though its an average over the top 10%<br>
>> users).<br>
>><br>
>> In general from what I have seen, most "unlimited" plans have some type<br>
>> of limit burried somewhere in their user agreement/tos, this is because<br>
>> capacity is finite and they do not want to go overboard with capacity<br>
>> and lose money. On a slight tangent, I just wish that carriers who<br>
>> didnt offer real unlimited would stop advertising it as such, * or not<br>
>> to indicate some obscure definition of "unlimited"...<br>
>><br>
>> --<br>
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