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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>If it does you would never know as
Switchvox gives you no access to CLI – At first I though this was a
limitation… Then I realized that the people at fourloop now Digium have already
made this thing do just about anything that I would have probably changed.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Mike<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><a href="http://www.8774e4voip.com/">http://www.8774e4voip.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:windowtext'> asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Nathan Shadle<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, November 05, 2007
4:32 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'Commercial and
Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [asterisk-biz]
Switchvox Free Edition vs Thirdlane</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I've come across some GUIs in the past
where if I made a change in a config file, the GUI would overwrite that change.
I guess they completely re-create the config file every time a
"submit" is made. Some things are just easier to do in the config
files than in the GUI, and I was wondering if Switchvox had this problem...</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Thanks,</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:windowtext'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
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asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Alex Epshteyn<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, November 05, 2007
1:56 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> david.cantera@IBSOneCall.com;
'Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [asterisk-biz]
Switchvox Free Edition vs Thirdlane</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Dave, <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>It is great that you looked at what we
offer and “got it”. You are absolutely correct – it is a lot
more than just branding and minor customization. Thirdlane was built with the
idea that VARs and consultants need a system that can be tailored to the (ever
changing) customers’ needs.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Asterisk is an extremely versatile and
powerful platform and our goal when building the GUI was not to constrain this
power. System extension capabilities were built-in from the start and are
integrated into the GUI. We also made the software as open as possible both in
terms of the dialplan and configuration files visibility and the deployment
environment. It can be deployed on different <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City
w:st="on">OSs</st1:City></st1:place> (various flavors of Linux and FreeBSD),
versions of Asterisk (1.2.X and 1.4.X), with a variety of phones
(auto-provisioning for Aastra, Snom, Cisco, Polycom, Linksys), it is packaged
as either a Webmin module or a complete CentOS based distribution.
Obviously, this openness makes it harder for us to support it (we are
doing our best as the customers base is growing), but gives VARs and
consultants the ability to add real value through deep customization and
possible tailoring to a vertical, beyond the installation and configuration of
a basic PBX. That said, the basic functionality is also there, and is not any
harder to use than any other Asterisk GUI. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>There is nothing wrong with Switchvox and
the “bulletproof” approach – we just offer something
different. Isn’t Asterisk about having a choice anyway?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Alex<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#330000" face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Alex Epshteyn</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Third Lane</span></font></st1:address></st1:Street><font
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Technologies, LLC</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><a href="http://www.thirdlane.com"
title="http://www.thirdlane.com">http://www.thirdlane.com</a></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:windowtext'> asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>dave cantera<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, November 04, 2007
8:19 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Commercial
and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [asterisk-biz]
Switchvox Free Edition vs Thirdlane</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color="#330000" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>speaking of the gui being a work in progress and from
the banter about my switchvox post, I realized that I was so wrapped up in what
I was doing, I neglected to 'watch the marketplace'. for new developments...
<br>
<br>
it seems that each offering has at least one, probably more, unique takes on
solving the gui problem... <br>
<br>
when reviewing the thirdlane website, which was substantially updated since I
last checked, alex offers a unique product that allows a reseller entré into a
market where there is no way to get into that market with a solution such as
switchvox. <br>
<br>
where switchvox is a nice clean and bullet proof install for a biz that wants a
telephone system (like a key system) with an IVR they can work with themselves
and pretty much not muck it up, Thirdlane offers a gui that the reseller can
customize and brand as their own and, I suspect, add customized features
tailored specifically to that application of asterisk and that would otherwise
not be available in a gui form.... <br>
<br>
alex perhaps you can expand on this, as it is better to come right from the
horse's mouth.<br>
daveC<br>
<br>
Dovid Bender wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=2 color="#330000" face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><snip><br>
You are also very right that GUI is "work in progress" all the time.<br>
My point is is one and only: GUI is collection of knowledge, skills and <br>
experiences and lets not forget after sales service which are crucial to <br>
successful deployments.<br>
</snip><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color="#330000" face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Windows XP has been released how many years ago ? Aren't
they still coming out with fixes for it ? IMHO there is no perfect human being.
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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