Alex, I concur. Like I said, I'm looking for the same thing that happened to the xbox to happen to their voip hardware. XBMC is great stuff, it's the reason I have an xbox (well, and halo ;) If in a year, I can get one of their systems for ~150 with some pstn hardware and a cool little lcd display, and put linux + oss voip on it, I'll be happy with MS for getting into VoIP :D
<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 10/11/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Alex Balashov</b> <<a href="mailto:abalashov@evaristesys.com">abalashov@evaristesys.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>Yeah, but it has brand identity and well-defined, ubiquitous purpose and<br>performance characteristics. Of course, as you rightly observe, that can<br>have nothing to do with intrinsic merit or the monetisation aspect of
<br>market acceptance (as opposed to the "hype" aspect).<br><br>I would wager there is going to be a lot of noise about Microsoft<br>telephony systems in the foreseeable future, due to its ability to<br>engineer it. But it seems to me like a very inflexible small-office
<br>PBX; the moment any kind of sophistication or polymorphism is required,<br>it's time to look elsewhere for something customisable, open-source and<br>multifarious.<br><br>And VoIP is kind of like that - look at all the things we are doing with
<br>it every day that extend far, far outside the domain of traditional PBX<br>expectations. Customised IVR systems, data acquisition interfaces, some<br>degree of carrier network element functionality and switching,<br>
translation, routing, peering... a lot of the ingenuity of what is, in the<br>end, a business-oriented Asterisk PBX system depends on the ability to<br>flexibly integrate this type of functionality.<br><br>-- Alex<br><br>
On Thu, 11 Oct 2007, shadowym wrote:<br><br>> The Xbox is just a PC running gaming software for the consumer market. They<br>> have remained committed to it for years and lost a lot of money in the<br>> process. Despite what "impression" you may have by all the advertising and
<br>> hype, they continue to be spanked by Nintendo which sells 2 or 3 boxes for<br>> every one Xbox. Or maybe it's the Sony or maybe both. Can't remember which<br>> but Google will tell you.<br>><br>
> The only reason people seem to want it is for online Halo so it's a one<br>> trick pony. They just lost a billion dollars on that massive recall for<br>> consoles going dead as well.<br>><br>> From: Aleks Clark [mailto:
<a href="mailto:aleks.clark@gmail.com">aleks.clark@gmail.com</a>]<br>> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:49 AM<br>> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion<br>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Check this out :(
<br>><br>> I dunno about the core competency...seems the Xbox is doing ok :D<br>> On 10/11/07, Alex Balashov <<a href="mailto:abalashov@evaristesys.com">abalashov@evaristesys.com</a><br>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:abalashov@evaristesys.com">
abalashov@evaristesys.com</a>> > wrote:<br>><br>> Indeed. We should all so be so lucky as to have an R&D budget 1/128th of<br>> that size. I've got lots of stuff I'd like to throw at the wall. I'm
<br>> sure you do too.<br>><br>> On Thu, 11 Oct 2007, shadowym wrote:<br>><br>>> I agree,<br>>><br>>> M$ is a blaster company. They blast the wall with all sorts of stuff to<br>> see<br>>> what sticks and if nothing much happens after a year or two they move on.
<br>>> The farther away they are from their core competency the less likey they<br>>> will remain committed to making a good product and sticking with it. An<br>> IP<br>>> PBX is a LONG ways from their core compentency.
<br>>><br>>> -----Original Message-----<br>>> From: Alex Balashov [mailto:<a href="mailto:abalashov@evaristesys.com">abalashov@evaristesys.com</a>]<br>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 11:28 PM<br>
>> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion<br>>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Check this out :(<br>>><br>>><br>>> I am not particularly beset with the impression that the VoIP business
<br>>> community has anything to fear from this product or the particular<br>>> vendor's attempt to enter the space.<br>>><br>>> On Mon, 10 Sep 2007, Derrick Moennick wrote:<br>>><br>>>> Looks like just another strong player entering into the IP telephony
<br>>>> world to make sure the world goes this route.<br>>>><br>>>> Derrick<br>>>><br>>>> -----Original Message-----<br>>>> From: <a href="mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com">
asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com</a><br>>>> [mailto: <mailto:<a href="mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com">asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com</a>><br>> <a href="mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com">
asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com</a>] On Behalf Of Michael S.<br>>>> White<br>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 6:57 PM<br>>>> To: 'Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion'
<br>>>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Check this out :(<br>>>><br>>>> I noticed this a while back - My thoughts were.<br>>>><br>>>> Hmmm. I'm sure it will only require 3-4 reboots a day!
<br>>>><br>>>> Mike<br>>>> <a href="http://www.8774e4voip.com">http://www.8774e4voip.com</a> <<a href="http://www.8774e4voip.com/">http://www.8774e4voip.com/</a>><br>>>><br>>>>
<br>>>><br>>>> Saysan Wrote-<br>>>> <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/responsepoint/default.mspx">http://www.microsoft.com/responsepoint/default.mspx</a><br>>>><br>>><br>>> --
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