Just too throw another wrench in the mix. Aastra makes most of Nortel's IP phones. They just load a UNISTEM protocal firmware on the phone instead of SIP.<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 10/10/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">
Tim Booth</b> <<a href="mailto:tbooth@visioncom.us">tbooth@visioncom.us</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
well shadowym, your ignorance really blows me away..Ever heard of<br>Goggle. Like a I said LG manufactures telecom equipment for many<br>systems, Vodavi and Nortel are a couple of them. Hey you learned<br>something new today!
<br><br><a href="http://www.lg-nortel.com/">http://www.lg-nortel.com/</a><br><br>shadowym wrote:<br>> So LG makes Nortel phones, Nortel network core products and Nortel PBX's and<br>> therefore Vodavi=LG=Nortel???
<br>><br>> Maybe you should take your own advice and do more research before flying off<br>> the handle because someone disagrees with you.<br>><br>> So I guess we can all scratch off <a href="http://visioncom.us">
visioncom.us</a> as a professional company.<br>> "Dumb ass"? Classy argument!<br>><br>> -----Original Message-----<br>> From: Tim Booth [mailto:<a href="mailto:tbooth@visioncom.us">tbooth@visioncom.us
</a>]<br>> Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 6:00 AM<br>> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion<br>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] KSU Killers??<br>><br>> Do some homework their dumb ass before you start bashing me for my
<br>> comments. Like I said I sell both Asterisk and key systems, and yes I<br>> have Vodavi systems installed that have not been touched for over 5<br>> years with the exception of program changes. Yes, Asterisk is nice but
<br>> certainly does not have the rock solid reliability of most key systems.<br>> As far as price it's called the power of manufacturing. LG manufactures<br>> the entire Vodavi line, they also make products for several other major
<br>> manufactures.<br>> The next time you pick up a Nortel product look at the label, its says<br>> LG/Nortel on it for a reason. Again do some home work before you open<br>> you mouth and more stupid comments flows to your keyboard.
<br>><br>> shadowym wrote:<br>><br>>> So in those 30 years have they managed to find magic fair dust that allows<br>>> them to make a phone system for next to nothing equivalent in quality to<br>>> Asterisk/Cisco etc.?
<br>>><br>>> Perhaps the phrase "you get what you pay for" does not apply to them and<br>>> their magical ways?<br>>><br>>> -----Original Message-----<br>>> From: Tim Booth [mailto:
<a href="mailto:tbooth@visioncom.us">tbooth@visioncom.us</a>]<br>>> Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 6:08 PM<br>>> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion<br>>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] KSU Killers??
<br>>><br>>> oooh...what was I thinking, Vodavi has only been around for 30 years.<br>>><br>>> shadowym wrote:<br>>><br>>><br>>>> At $300 I'm sure you will get exactly what you pay for. Let me re-phrase
<br>>>><br>>>><br>>> my<br>>><br>>><br>>>> subject to "Good quality KSU killer"<br>>>><br>>>> -----Original Message-----<br>>>> From: Tim Booth [mailto:
<a href="mailto:tbooth@visioncom.us">tbooth@visioncom.us</a>]<br>>>> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 2:38 PM<br>>>> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion<br>>>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] KSU Killers??
<br>>>><br>>>> Its not a KSU killer in the small end market. A good example is the<br>>>> Vodavi STSe key system, basic KSU is 4 CO lines with CID daughter board<br>>>> + 2 SLT ports and 8 Digital extensions for $298 bucks. In skin Voice
<br>>>> mail $599 and 24 button digital speaker phones $115 each.<br>>>> Do the math it's less than an Asterisk server, just doesn't have all the<br>>>> other bells and whistles. Most small business don't use those other
<br>>>> bells and whistles anyway.<br>>>> I sell both Asterisk solutions and key system, the key systems are not<br>>>> going are not going away anytime soon.<br>>>><br>>>><br>
>>><br>>>> shadowym wrote:<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>>> That sort of comment is totally uncalled for IMHO! It was obviously<br>>>>><br>> done<br>>
<br>>>>> out of emotion. Otherwise you would present some sort of valid argument<br>>>>> such as links/white papers/case studies of successful implementations.<br>>>>><br>> I<br>>
<br>>>>> would like to see evidence of just as much as anyone but my initial<br>>>>> excitement over it has waned.<br>>>>><br>>>>> -----Original Message-----<br>>>>> From: Henry
L.Coleman [mailto:<a href="mailto:asterisk@voip-pbx.ca">asterisk@voip-pbx.ca</a>]<br>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 9:27 AM<br>>>>> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion<br>
>>>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] KSU Killers??<br>>>>><br>>>>> Shadowym...You must have led a sheltered life.<br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>>
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