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I see what you mean. I suppose the speakeasy/vitelity example is not a good one since you lose control once the packets hit the cloud. But there are other T1 providers such as bandwidth.com that also offer Qos from start to finish and will give 5X9 reliability, and I am sure that they don't prohibit asterisk.<br><br>Speakeasy aggressively markets their hosted pbx and that is why they don't want you using asterisk. They would much prefer that you sell their phones and hosted pbx.<br><br>Ben Vance
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mountaintop solutions<br><br><br><blockquote style="border-left: #008080 2px solid; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px;"><hr>Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 23:12:34 -0400<br>From: bill@cosi.com<br>To: asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com<br>Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Digium, Polycom, and Netxusa Cutting Us Out?!?<br><br>
Now you say end-to-end, and I'm unclear as to the meaning. But you
originally suggested something else.<br>
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QoS only serves its intended purpose if one controls all the hops
between a packet source and destination. If my ISP does not also also
provide the VoIP termination, my packets must traverse the net where
there is no QoS assurance. So mixing Speakeasy with, say, Vitelity as
you suggest is problematic. Thus my question: It might work very well
anyway, but isn't there a qualitative difference?<br>
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Charles Vance wrote:
<blockquote cite="midBAY115-W4E959008F77D274A0FFE5BB630@phx.gbl">
Why can't you go with any one of a number of other broadband
providers that will still give you the end to end service you need?
Bandwidth.com is one that comes to mind they offer decent pricing and
end to end voip origination/termination and a 99.999 SLA to boot.<br>
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There are others as well. Also, Qos can be managed from within your
router as long as you have a good reliable bandwidth connection.<br>
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I understood you to say that you were
having problems with speakeasy since they wouldnt let you use Asterisk
over their Voip channels. Im just saying there are many other
combinations of sip trunking and voip transport out there. Aren't
there? (BTW I didn't realize speakeasy would prohibit use of Asterisk
on their network, maybe I misunderstood?)<br>
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Ben Vance
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mountaintop solutions<br>
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<hr>Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 19:41:24 -0400<br>
From: <a class="EC_moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:bill@cosi.com">bill@cosi.com</a><br>
To: <a class="EC_moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com">asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com</a><br>
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Digium, Polycom, and Netxusa Cutting Us
Out?!?<br>
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Qualitatively? Can you elaborate, please?<br>
<br>
Charles Vance wrote:
<blockquote cite="midBAY115-W9351E76A4B5AB409F2875BB630@phx.gbl"> <br>
Any decent router and a 5 nine SLA from your telco is same same.<br>
<br>
Ben Vance <br>
mountaintop solutions<br>
800-874-4413 ext 500<br>
fax 309-285-8312<br>
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<hr>Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 17:44:29 -0400<br>
From: <a class="EC_EC_moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:bill@cosi.com">bill@cosi.com</a><br>
To: <a class="EC_EC_moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com">asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com</a><br>
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Digium, Polycom, and Netxusa Cutting Us
Out?!?<br>
<br>
Here is why bother:<br>
<br>
Speakeasy can provide QoS to its own PSTN termination point.<br>
<br>
That is a key architectural feature.<br>
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Charles Vance wrote:
<blockquote cite="midBAY115-W7479F08F088AD9B183D37BB6C0@phx.gbl">Why
bother? You can still get a good rate from speakeasy for
the DSL bandwidth and then just use some other voip provider such as
telasip or vitelity<br>
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